Jump to content

      












Photo

West Shore Express Passenger Ferry | Royal Bay to Victoria


  • Please log in to reply
277 replies to this topic

#261 splashflash

splashflash
  • Member
  • 182 posts

Posted 28 April 2022 - 09:25 PM

Strange days ... you get press, mayors comments, and comments from Canada's west coast naval headquarters for suggesting that some level of government build a gondola on the edge of one of the (if not the) windiest straights in the Pacific Northwest?

I gotta start coming up with some of these kinds of theories, and getting my name into the paper.

If the potential for brutal wind storms doesn't break the back of this ridiculous idea, then the Base Press Officer certainly did when he alluded to the fact that likely the Admiral himself quite certainly wouldn't be letting folks sail over top of (or even close to) a bit less than a third of Canadas entire warship fleet.

Brutal storms, pfffft. And there aren't fierce winds on the top of Whistler resort at which the Peak 2 Peak Gondola runs? Nice try.

Edited by splashflash, 28 April 2022 - 09:36 PM.

  • Matt R. likes this

#262 Spy Black

Spy Black
  • Member
  • 2,091 posts

Posted 29 April 2022 - 05:13 AM

Brutal storms, pfffft. And there aren't fierce winds on the top of Whistler resort at which the Peak 2 Peak Gondola runs? Nice try.

LOL, of course there are, and the lifts close.

So you build a public transportation system for tens of millions of dollars, and it spends a bunch of its time closed due to high winds.

You've actually made my point for me in the course of acting the part of a smart-ass.

Nice try.

 

https://dailyhive.co...-january-3-2019



#263 splashflash

splashflash
  • Member
  • 182 posts

Posted 29 April 2022 - 06:26 AM

Hmmmm, an article from three years ago and the lift closed. I wonder what the availability would be?

In the early 1990's when the Burnaby bus drivers went on wildcat stikes, it didn't prevent the bus network from expanding in the future. It did show the resilience of the SkyTrain Expo line which was mostly immune to labour disruption.

It actually looks like Burnaby Mountain will be getting a gondola for public transit because it is more efficient than buses. https://www.translin...ountain-gondola

#264 Mike K.

Mike K.
  • Administrator
  • 70,199 posts

Posted 29 April 2022 - 07:26 AM

Gondola or no gondola, whatever commuter option is chose. Where will you find space to park 5,000 cars for free?
  • Victoria Watcher likes this

Know it all.
Citified.ca is Victoria's most comprehensive research resource for new-build homes and commercial spaces.


#265 Victoria Watcher

Victoria Watcher

    Old White Man On A Canadian Island

  • Member
  • 32,780 posts

Posted 29 April 2022 - 07:30 AM

Gondola or no gondola, whatever commuter option is chose. Where will you find space to park 5,000 cars for free?

 

Yes, the free parking lot is at the base.



#266 Spy Black

Spy Black
  • Member
  • 2,091 posts

Posted 29 April 2022 - 07:33 AM

I think this all makes for interesting conversation, especially if you're a local that has actually seen the Westshore to Downtown develop into what it is today.

 

But the reality is (IMO) the Provincial and Regional governments lack any and all imagination required beyond putting in bus lanes, and increasing the bus runs.

 

In our lifetimes (the folks posting here anyway), the best we're going to ever get is more buses, and a dedicated bus lane.

The bus lanes are already either underway, or planned ... so dreams of a ferry, gondola, or rapid transit will (unfortunately) remain only dreams.



#267 Victoria Watcher

Victoria Watcher

    Old White Man On A Canadian Island

  • Member
  • 32,780 posts

Posted 29 April 2022 - 07:37 AM

I think this all makes for interesting conversation, especially if you're a local that has actually seen the Westshore to Downtown develop into what it is today.

 

But the reality is (IMO) the Provincial and Regional governments lack any and all imagination required beyond putting in bus lanes, and increasing the bus runs.

 

In our lifetimes (the folks posting here anyway), the best we're going to ever get is more buses, and a dedicated bus lane.

The bus lanes are already either underway, or planned ... so dreams of a ferry, gondola, or rapid transit will (unfortunately) remain only dreams.

 

Except it's hard to add a bus-only lane each way on Admirals Rd.  If only those machinists and welders and electricians and painters could work from home.


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 29 April 2022 - 07:38 AM.


#268 Spy Black

Spy Black
  • Member
  • 2,091 posts

Posted 29 April 2022 - 08:14 AM

Except it's hard to add a bus-only lane each way on Admirals Rd.  If only those machinists and welders and electricians and painters could work from home.

Yes, I'm afraid the current "master plan" doesn't do very much for CFB Esq. and surrounds beyond maybe increase bus service over existing (unmodified) streets.



#269 Mike K.

Mike K.
  • Administrator
  • 70,199 posts

Posted 29 April 2022 - 11:06 AM

Which is the dumbest thing of all, since CFB Esquimalt is the biggest single driver of traffic to the core from the West Shore.


Know it all.
Citified.ca is Victoria's most comprehensive research resource for new-build homes and commercial spaces.


#270 LJ

LJ
  • Member
  • 11,322 posts

Posted 29 April 2022 - 07:40 PM

Tell me again why they got rid of the blue boats?


  • Lorenzo likes this
Life's a journey......so roll down the window and enjoy the breeze.

#271 Mike K.

Mike K.
  • Administrator
  • 70,199 posts

Posted 30 April 2022 - 06:15 AM

—> $
  • Victoria Watcher likes this

Know it all.
Citified.ca is Victoria's most comprehensive research resource for new-build homes and commercial spaces.


#272 LJ

LJ
  • Member
  • 11,322 posts

Posted 30 April 2022 - 06:57 PM

I'm guessing they would be cheaper than a gondola.


Life's a journey......so roll down the window and enjoy the breeze.

#273 Mike K.

Mike K.
  • Administrator
  • 70,199 posts

Posted 30 April 2022 - 07:39 PM

Pipe dreams are free!

Know it all.
Citified.ca is Victoria's most comprehensive research resource for new-build homes and commercial spaces.


#274 Spy Black

Spy Black
  • Member
  • 2,091 posts

Posted 01 May 2022 - 06:29 AM

Pipe dreams are free!

^^This is so true^^

 

My dear old dad had a very specific life-lesson he repeatedly taught me over the years ... which was to definitely develop personal aspirations, to definitely aspire to something more than your status quo, and further, that those aspirations had no limits as long as they were rational and achievable (don't suddenly "aspire" to be an astronaut when you're a 50 year old burger flipper at McDonalds).

 

But part #2 of that life-lesson was the rather strong warning that unrealistic pipe dreams were a waste of time and energy, and to avoid those pipe dreams in all aspects of my life ... and to not get involved with folks whose life seemed nothing more than a series of pipe dreams.

 

(he would then go on to explain the origin of the phrase "pipe dreams" as the wild, rambling dreams experienced by the opium pipe addict ... in his eyes a waste of a human life).


  • Mike K. and Barrrister like this

#275 Victoria Watcher

Victoria Watcher

    Old White Man On A Canadian Island

  • Member
  • 32,780 posts

Posted 01 May 2022 - 06:36 AM

 (don't suddenly "aspire" to be an astronaut when you're a 50 year old burger flipper at McDonalds).

 

:)



#276 Sparky

Sparky

    GET OFF MY LAWN

  • Moderator
  • 12,241 posts

Posted 01 May 2022 - 07:05 AM

This is exactly why I do not buy lottery tickets. If you find yourself thinking about what you would do with the money if you won….stop buying them.

The best way to turn $50 into $500,000 is to put it in your gas tank and drive yourself to work.
  • Mike K. likes this

#277 max.bravo

max.bravo
  • Member
  • 758 posts

Posted 01 May 2022 - 10:09 AM

Unfortunately the rising generation increasingly sees work as a four letter word; an oppressive, old fashioned concept. There’s an alarming growth of anti-work academic thought coming from the Woke crowd, fueling the appetite for UBI.

Back to the gondola idea, I actually think it’s a good concept, but the wrong location. Swartz Bay should be a station for two gondola lines- one to Salt Spring, and one to Mill Bay. Put bike racks on the side of the cars and call it an extension of the cycling network- that’s how you get things funded these days.

#278 Victoria Watcher

Victoria Watcher

    Old White Man On A Canadian Island

  • Member
  • 32,780 posts

Posted 29 June 2022 - 05:27 AM

Councillor challenges Colwood mayor for top job

Coun. Doug Kobayashi will challenge incumbent Rob Martin for mayor's job
 
 
 
Martin said one of his key priorities is to continue to work on rapid-bus infrastructure as well as his passion project — a West Shore passenger ferry from Royal Bay to Ship Point in downtown Victoria.
 

“I think we’re really close to getting that full feasibility study done,” he said, noting he has been in constant communication with the province, Royal Bay developers and the Royal Canadian Navy about the possibility.

 

Martin said one of his frustrations with local governments is not taking on projects that will pay off 10 to 30 years down the line.

 

He said people will one day ask why Colwood didn’t capture the land to make it possible when it had the chance and it was more affordable. “I see that that’s where we’re going to be in 30 years,” he said. “We will have Royal Beach in Royal Bay completely built out and we’re not going to have the land available to have a ferry system.”

 

Kobayashi, who was first elected to council in 2018, said that kind of project shows the difference between him and Martin.

 

“This is about getting back to what we’re supposed to be doing at our core services and making sure we are doing it really well,” said Kobayashi, a self-described fiscal conservative.

 

“We can vision all we want, but we must bring some realities to some of these what I call ill-conceived vanity projects.

 

_________________________

 

Kobayashi, a retired lieutenant colonel who spent 20 years with the Royal Canadian Air Force, worked another 27 years as a professional engineer and senior executive in the aerospace industry with a number of firms, including CAE Aviation and Conair Aviation.

 

He said Colwood needs to dial back the current building pace and ensure council is listening to what the community needs.



 



0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users