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#961 Nparker

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 01:34 PM

If it's yellow let it mellow.... 

Perhaps, but there still needs to be a time limit on the mellowing process.



#962 dasmo

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 02:38 PM

Perhaps, but there still needs to be a time limit on the mellowing process.

Like 3 seconds! I am on septic and a well so I am self sufficient in the loop of water. 


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#963 dasmo

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 02:43 PM

More on the selective vision....

Lithium mining has become a boom industry as more and more of the metal is needed in electric car batteries. Yet despite being lauded as key material for a renewables revolution, it too has a dark side. Blamed for speeding up desertification around the salt lakes of Latin America’s ‘lithium triangle’, the evaporation techniques used in mining lithium are causing concern.

 

Dissent over evaporation processes have been rumbling for years, and many are saying operations have directly triggered a water crisis. The San Cristóbal Mine in Bolivia, said to use 50,000 litres of water per day

 

https://www.mining-t...-water-problem/


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#964 Mike K.

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 04:05 PM

Yeah, we don't like to talk about that so much.

 

Can you stop?


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#965 Matt R.

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 10:09 PM

I am looking forward to the day we switch from lithium to dilithium.
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#966 Nparker

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Posted 16 May 2022 - 11:10 PM

Clearly you've forgotten how few places supply dilithium crystals. They are often the cause of interplanetary wars, not to mention the damned things are always f***ing up the antimatter chamber.

#967 Mike K.

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Posted 09 June 2022 - 08:29 AM

CRD is planning $2 billion in investments to expand and upgrade water services in Greater Victoria. This will be paid for through grants and water usage rates:

The Capital Regional District (CRD) Regional Water Supply Commission has released the 2022 Master Plan that includes a proposed infrastructure program to improve the water supply and transition system and add redundancy to critical components to address hazards and risks. The Plan recommends projects to be implemented over the next 30 years based on the projected population, the impacts of climate change, water treatment requirements resulting from changing raw water quality characteristics and regulatory requirements.

“The 2022 Master Plan builds on previous system infrastructure investments, which have been largely focused on securing supply, and takes a forward-looking approach to create a resilient water supply system that will serve Greater Victoria for the next 30 years,” says Lillian Szpak, Chair of the Regional Water Supply Commission and City of Langford Councillor.

The plan advances the commitments, strategic priorities and actions adopted in the 2017 Regional Water Supply Strategic Plan, recommending 21 major projects to meet anticipated water supply and treatment needs based on projected population for the year 2050. The recommendations also consider climate change impacts on water supply and demand, anticipated changes in raw water characteristics and regulatory requirements. Modeling indicates that by 2045 additional water will need to be sourced from the deep northern basin of Sooke Lake Reservoir and the Leech River water supply catchment area. The recommended projects will require significant investment over a 30-year period, approximately $2 billion, to be paid for through water rates with the potential for grant funding.

The plan is available for public review and comment until July 6, 2022 at https://getinvolved....ly-master-plan.

Feedback collected will be presented to the Regional Water Supply Commission and will be used to guide how the plan is implemented over time, with further engagement carried out as each project is designed and implemented.

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#968 Nparker

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Posted 09 June 2022 - 08:36 AM

Has the CRD given any consideration to not letting the "excess" rain water we receive now just flow over the existing reservoirs, then telling us we need to conserve?



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Posted 09 June 2022 - 08:40 AM

I'll be long dead by 2045, so won't live to enjoy a drink of H2O that originated from deep in the north end of Sooke Lake ... and I don't for a second believe that the Leech will ever supply drinking water as indicated in this plan ... but generally speaking, our CRD water infrastructure and water purity is to be envied around the world.

 

If we (for a moment) put aside the often confusing and perhaps misplaced water conservation strategies, the CRD water folks do an excellent job of making sure our water supply remains one of the very best in the world.



#970 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 09 June 2022 - 08:47 AM

If we (for a moment) put aside the often confusing and perhaps misplaced water conservation strategies, the CRD water folks do an excellent job of making sure our water supply remains one of the very best in the world.

You’ve been (forgive the pun) drinking the Kool aid. Luck and geography and maybe a decision 100 years ago gave us a good water supply.

The CRD (created in 1966) has done nothing that other water managers would not have done with a good starting supply.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 09 June 2022 - 08:49 AM.


#971 Spy Black

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Posted 09 June 2022 - 08:49 AM

You’ve been (forgive the pun) drinking the Kool aid. Luck and geography and maybe a decision 100 years ago gave us a good water supply.

The CRD has done nothing that other water managers would not have done with a good starting supply.

From decades long up close and personal experience with both the CRD water folks, and the geographical area our drinking water originates in ... you couldn't be more wrong.



#972 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 09 June 2022 - 08:51 AM

You’ve been (forgive the pun) drinking the Kool aid. Luck and geography and maybe a decision 100 years ago gave us a good water supply.

The CRD (created in 1966) has done nothing that other water managers would not have done with a good starting supply.

And politically, today we could never start a new water project of similar scale. Thus “older values” that we do not have today, were also responsible for our luck.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 09 June 2022 - 08:51 AM.


#973 Spy Black

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Posted 09 June 2022 - 09:11 AM

And politically, today we could never start a new water project of similar scale. Thus “older values” that we do not have today, were also responsible for our luck.

Although not often practiced in our area (maybe since McKenzie Ave was pushed through from Ruby Road to the highway?) ... legal property expropriation is still a real thing in B.C. ... and it's very likely that either Sooke Lake or Shawinigan Lake would still be the source of our drinking water if the entire CRD "suddenly" appeared out of nowhere - on a map in 2022.

 

Who knows though? ... I'm just guessing.

 

The reality is that our drinking water is very effectively managed in 2022, largely by engineers and biologists as opposed to politicians.

By example (and there's lots of them) the guy at the very top (Ted Robbins) of CRD water is a Civil Engineer ... not some lame political appointee.


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Posted 09 June 2022 - 09:17 AM

The reality is that our drinking water is very effectively managed in 2022, largely by engineers and biologists as opposed to politicians.

By example (and there's lots of them) the guy at the very top (Ted Robbins) of CRD water is a Civil Engineer ... not some lame political appointee.

 

I'm willing to agree with this.


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#975 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 09 June 2022 - 09:19 AM

making sure our water supply remains one of the very best in the world.

 

I see no evidence of this.  Sure our water is pretty good, but it's not like it's top-1000 in the world.  That's PR fed to you.  We've never won any significant water quality awards.  And we often get warnings about our "cloudy water", low pressure etc.

 

I see lots of bottled water being bought at the grocery store!

 

And based on water over the spillway - every single year - and water restrictions - every single year - we obviously do not manage it well.  But that might be more political.  But then again, the CRD is managed by politicians.


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 09 June 2022 - 09:24 AM.


#976 Mike K.

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Posted 09 June 2022 - 09:22 AM

The reality is that our drinking water is very effectively managed in 2022, largely by engineers and biologists as opposed to politicians.

By example (and there's lots of them) the guy at the very top (Ted Robbins) of CRD water is a Civil Engineer ... not some lame political appointee.

 

I think there is more political influence into some of those hires than may meet the eye.


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#977 Spy Black

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Posted 09 June 2022 - 09:29 AM

I think there is more political influence into some of those hires than may meet the eye.

Indeed ... when you start talking about jobs that pay up over $150,000.00 per year ... political implications are endemic, and never very far away.

 

But that doesn't change the fact that Ted Robbins is a Civil Engineer, and brings a Civil Engineers mindset to the table when planning for future water needs in the CRD.



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Posted 09 June 2022 - 09:37 AM

...And based on water over the spillway - every single year - and water restrictions - every single year - we obviously do not manage it well.  But that might be more political.  But then again, the CRD is managed by politicians.

This.



#979 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 09 June 2022 - 10:08 AM

Indeed ... when you start talking about jobs that pay up over $150,000.00 per year ... political implications are endemic, and never very far away.

 

But that doesn't change the fact that Ted Robbins is a Civil Engineer, and brings a Civil Engineers mindset to the table when planning for future water needs in the CRD.

 

Robbins made $215,869 in 2020:

 

https://www.crd.bc.c...vrsn=fc1ecdcd_2


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Posted 23 June 2022 - 05:12 PM

Capital Region waterworks plan could top $2 billion

 

Sooke News Mirror, June 22

 

Excerpt: A key component of the plan is the Goldstream water filtration plant. With an estimated cost of $1.07 billion, it would provide a single direct filtration plant to protect the regional water supply from potential raw water quality fluctuations due to climate change, forest fires, and the eventual integration of water from the Leech and Goldstream water supply areas.


Edited by JohnN, 23 June 2022 - 05:12 PM.

:)

 



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