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#921 JohnN

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Posted 09 November 2021 - 11:02 AM

CRD has RFP out for study of bathymetry of some small lakes in the Sooke Reservoir watershed - attached image of page 9/40 segment has what I think is their goal for the study: https://www.crd.bc.c...es-in-the-gvwsa

I guess with the prospect of continually changing climate, the previous normals are no longer and modelling that can account for every drop of water entering the reservoir could be much more important.

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#922 Mike K.

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Posted 11 November 2021 - 05:47 AM

I’m up-Island and authorities here say they’ve had the second wettest start to November on record, and need to start letting dams spill. Rivers fed by dams are dangerous now as levels could rapidly rise and fall without notice.

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#923 JohnN

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Posted 04 December 2021 - 10:02 AM

“It means the natural worst-case scenario drought, in our watersheds, is worse than what we thought,” she said. “Once you put climate change on top of that, as well as deforestation and increased population supply and demand, we’re set up for droughts to occur that are worse than any in the instrumental record.”

 

Future Greater Victoria droughts could be worse than any on record: watershed researcher https://www.vicnews....hed-researcher/


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#924 Nparker

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Posted 04 December 2021 - 10:30 AM

If we were really concerned about future droughts we would be capturing more of the precipitation we get this time of year.

Just more baseless fear-mongering.



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Posted 04 December 2021 - 10:34 AM

Not so sure about the “deforestation” remark either.

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Posted 05 December 2021 - 08:49 AM

What does “increased population supply and demand” have to do with drought?

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Posted 05 December 2021 - 02:51 PM

Deforestation of Sooke Lake Reservoir hasn't been a problem - there seemed to be sustainable clearcutting going on for a long time, managed by the Greater Victoria Water District and then the CRD Water Dept. However, the commercial logging stopped when CRD got taken to court (or threatened, I forget which) and so the only logging left was to clear the reservoir rim when the dam was raised. I think there are still jobs for the CRD water foresters tending to the Leech Watershed lands. 

 

For the CRD, trying to get the dam raised 20 years ago was a huge effort given so many environmentalists were fighting it. I recall one  environmentalist theme was that having more water would just encourage more development.

 

If there is a push for more local farming, the water demand will probably be a lot more acute - maybe more than just having new suburbs. 

 

However, even in the late 1990s as the dam raising was going through the CRD Board decision-making grinder, the likelihood of climate change making for more droughts (and possibly more winter rain) was seen as quite likely and another argument to expand the reservoir. This seemed to continue with the discussion and decision to spend the $60 million on the Leech (plus land rehab costs and possibly $150 million for filtration). 

 

While CRD water is a public enterprise, interesting to see how much private sector water provision goes on in the CRD's hinterlands, with companies such as well drillers and the private water trucks expanding. 


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#928 Nparker

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Posted 05 December 2021 - 03:00 PM

...one environmentalist theme was that having more water would just encourage more development...

Growing more food just encourages more eating. People should starve to death for the greater good.



#929 Spy Black

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Posted 06 December 2021 - 10:29 AM

Not so sure about the “deforestation” remark either.

I think that's just a generic reference to an anti-logging agenda.

There is no active logging currently taking place in the Sooke or the Leech watersheds.

 

Kapoor has long maintained a logging operation immediately south of Sooke Lake (and just to the east of Leechtown), but that operation is on lands outside of the Sooke watershed.

Also, Kapoor have been carefully logging this privately owned forest land for many decades now, with zero effect on Sooke Lake.


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#930 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 23 January 2022 - 07:39 AM

Ucluelet water supply line damaged beyond repair, district says

 

The water supply line running across the Ucluelet Inlet to the Yuułuʔiłʔatḥ (Ucluelet) First Nation will have to be completely replaced, the District of Ucluelet announced Saturday in a public notice.
 
 

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#931 JohnN

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Posted 23 January 2022 - 09:46 AM

Ucluelet pipe break is interesting - first thought be a barge hitting it and now a result of extraordinary tidal movements due to Tonga Tsunami. In any case, looks like District of Ucluelet had previously identified deficiencies in their water supply plans so were going to be upgrading the system

 

Interesting that Ucluelet FN get their water via the now-broken pipeline from the town of Ucluelet because it appears that the water disinfection plant is in the town - but the water supply arrives there from a distant Lost Shoe aquifer (several kms to the West of the town) and from Mercantile Creek - which is actually far nearer to the FN if it were disinfected near the FN village. Map segment below showing Lost Shoe way off to the West, Mercantile Creek to the North and the  side-by-side two cross-Inlet pipes is from: https://ucluelet.ca/..._-_OCP_2020.pdf

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#932 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 23 January 2022 - 02:19 PM

Yes.  Interesting topography around there for sure.



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Posted 25 February 2022 - 04:23 PM

CRD RFP 2022-741 Consulting Services for Agricultural Water Rate Study 

 

Image below explains their issue - a widening divide between residential water rates and farm water rates  (page 9).

 

Supplying some farms with cheap water may not necessarily serve regional objectives.

 

As I recall, a lot of the farm acreage around the region has been for horse hay and daffodils, but consumes as much water as a suburb.  

 

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#934 Mike K.

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Posted 25 February 2022 - 07:14 PM

You mean, it’s not about food security?

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#935 JohnN

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Posted 26 February 2022 - 06:13 AM

You mean, it’s not about food security

Looks like food security will be considered as an issue but seems to be more than that. Rather than just a farm water report, would be better to investigate water rates for residential, industrial, etc. Basically, does the CRD need ever-increasing residential water rates to cover its costs, or are rate increases viewed as a "sin tax" to encourage conservation? Will be interesting to see the report but we'll probably hear more as the consultants go for stakeholder input. 


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Posted 26 February 2022 - 08:57 AM

...does the CRD need ever-increasing residential water rates to cover its costs, or are rate increases viewed as a "sin tax" to encourage conservation? ...

I think we all know which of these is the #1 motivation for local governments.



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Posted 14 March 2022 - 01:41 PM

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“Pick up a FREE leak detection kit March 14 - 21, 2022 from the following locations:“ https://www.crd.bc.c.../leak-detection
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#938 JohnN

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Posted 15 May 2022 - 08:55 AM

Greater Victoria tap water on tour from source to table

 

The popular tours of the Greater Victoria water supply area and facilities are back on the agenda this June.
 
The Capital Regional District’s ‘Get to Know Your H2O’ tours connect residents with a tangible look at how drinking water is delivered from source to tap.
 

 

Tours leave from the CRD field office on a school bus and are guided to various stops within the protected watersheds.
 
The source to tap tour, recommended for those 12 and older, is five hours and follows the flow of water starting at the north end of Sooke Lake Reservoir. The tour explores the surrounding forests, Rithet Creek – the main tributary to Sooke Lake Reservoir – water supply facilities and the treatment process.
 
Tours run Thursday through Sunday in June. All tours require advanced reservations, which tend to sell out.
 
The CRD also offers school tours specifically for Grade 5 students.
 
Register for tours online at crd.bc.ca/about/events.
 
 
 
 

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Posted 15 May 2022 - 09:05 AM

Does the tour include discussions of how, during an exceptionally cool, wet spring, the CRD is letting water spill over the dams, while automatically implementing water usage restrictions?



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Posted 15 May 2022 - 03:40 PM

Does the tour include discussions of how, during an exceptionally cool, wet spring, the CRD is letting water spill over the dams, while automatically implementing water usage restrictions?

When the reservoir water level is at 100%, nothing can hold more water back so out it goes through the spillway. But the question in some form is always asked by somebody on the tours so CRD have a stock general answer ready as seen by clicking on their FAQ, "We have had a lot of rain and our reservoir is at capacity. Why conserve?"


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