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#5301 Blair M.

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Posted 24 May 2023 - 11:31 AM

Pandora Street, Topaz Park, Stadacona Park, etc can all be traced directly to 1985, and can be squarely laid at the feet of the B.C. Supreme Court, the B.C. Provincial Government, and the City of Victoria.

 

The Province can be squarely blamed for the closing of Tranquille, Glendale, Riverview, and Woodlands, along with the entire support infrastructure designed to assist mentally ill British Columbians.

The City can be blamed for it's endless toying with local by-laws designed to prevent situations like Pandora Street from happening in the first place.

And the courts can be blamed for their endless "experimenting" with what the Charter might (or could) mean if they misconstrue original intent of its authors, or simply twist a word or phrase here or there.

 

Add the millions at stake funding the special interest groups and poverty pimps, and suddenly Pandora, Topaz, Stadacona, etc all make complete and total sense.


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#5302 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 24 May 2023 - 11:45 AM

Pandora Street, Topaz Park, Stadacona Park, etc can all be traced directly to 1985, and can be squarely laid at the feet of the B.C. Supreme Court, the B.C. Provincial Government, and the City of Victoria.

 

Incorrect.

 

That law says campers must pack up every night 7am to 7pm.  Of the 13 municipalities here only Victoria ignores that rule.


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 24 May 2023 - 11:46 AM.


#5303 Blair M.

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Posted 25 May 2023 - 05:21 AM

Incorrect.

 

That law says campers must pack up every night 7am to 7pm.  Of the 13 municipalities here only Victoria ignores that rule.

I don't think anything is incorrect?

I noted that the City of Victoria is at fault for "endless toying" with existing by-laws.

Your observation is but an example of this, and points to the City of Victoria as the creator of these semi permanent homeless camps.


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#5304 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 03 June 2023 - 12:23 AM

Canada has way more parking than cars. Is it time for that to change?

 

Even if plain, boring parking lots seem to dominate city landscapes, author Henry Grabar says it's not too late to shift gears towards a less car-centric society, which could open up parking spaces to be used for other needs such as affordable housing. 

 

"We have spent a long time thinking about how automobiles and roads have transformed our landscape, but paid very little attention to parking. And I think that's a mistake," Grabar told The Sunday Magazine guest host Robyn Bresnahan.

 

"A car spends 95 per cent of its lifespan parked. So when you think about the car's actual spatial impact on the places we live, you're mostly talking about parking."

 

Grabar is a journalist for Slate and the author of a new book called Paved Paradise: How Parking Explains the World.

 

He says a move away from the need for parking spaces could open up more options for affordable housing, and make cities more walkable. 

 

But according to Grabar there is too much parking, and the planning around it hasn't been getting the attention it needs. 

 

Grabar says that's because parking sits at the intersection of land use and transportation. He says that often the people in charge of transportation don't think about parking and, with the exception of residential developments, architects often don't consider where to put cars until after a building is designed. 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/r...nning-1.6862522


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#5305 Ismo07

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Posted 05 June 2023 - 08:41 AM

Canada has way more parking than cars. Is it time for that to change?

 

Even if plain, boring parking lots seem to dominate city landscapes, author Henry Grabar says it's not too late to shift gears towards a less car-centric society, which could open up parking spaces to be used for other needs such as affordable housing. 

 

"We have spent a long time thinking about how automobiles and roads have transformed our landscape, but paid very little attention to parking. And I think that's a mistake," Grabar told The Sunday Magazine guest host Robyn Bresnahan.

 

"A car spends 95 per cent of its lifespan parked. So when you think about the car's actual spatial impact on the places we live, you're mostly talking about parking."

 

Grabar is a journalist for Slate and the author of a new book called Paved Paradise: How Parking Explains the World.

 

He says a move away from the need for parking spaces could open up more options for affordable housing, and make cities more walkable. 

 

But according to Grabar there is too much parking, and the planning around it hasn't been getting the attention it needs. 

 

Grabar says that's because parking sits at the intersection of land use and transportation. He says that often the people in charge of transportation don't think about parking and, with the exception of residential developments, architects often don't consider where to put cars until after a building is designed. 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/r...nning-1.6862522

 

Yeah it's been a long standing argument.  It's an odd one for me to understand.  Just cause the car isn't used much more than hour a day, the argument that is made that we don't need much parking is weird. 



#5306 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 05 June 2023 - 08:49 AM

I only use my washing machine one or two days per week, but I still need to put it somewhere.


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#5307 Ismo07

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Posted 05 June 2023 - 09:07 AM

I only use my washing machine one or two days per week, but I still need to put it somewhere.

 

Yeah but it's static.  A vehicle will need typically 2-3 spaces a day.  More if the average person has got errands or events to go to so could increase to 5 or 6 even though the vehicle isn't use for a high % of the day.  This is where those folks claiming because the car is stopped for 23 hours a day that spaces aren't needed.  


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#5308 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 05 June 2023 - 09:12 AM

The car does not need 2 or 3 spaces at a time though.

 

Also, my washing machine is on wheels.  It's got wifi so I take it to the library or sometimes to the gym. 


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#5309 Nparker

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Posted 05 June 2023 - 09:19 AM

...my washing machine is on wheels.  It's got wifi so I take it to the library or sometimes to the gym. 

We should try to get your washing machine together with my Smart refrigerator. They might hit it off. Just a heads-up though, my appliance can be a bit cold at times. Perhaps set your washer on the gentle cycle.


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#5310 Mike K.

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Posted 05 June 2023 - 03:37 PM

Sounds like they’ll get their Freon!
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#5311 lanforod

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Posted 05 June 2023 - 05:08 PM

Careful, you’re gendering these appliances. Best ask what preferred pronouns Washing Machine and Fridge use first. Safe space and all that.

#5312 Nparker

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Posted 05 June 2023 - 05:28 PM

I've always been completely open to my refrigerator expressing their self however they feel comfortable, even if they choose to identify as a stove, a dishwasher, or a combination of all three.



#5313 aastra

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Posted 05 June 2023 - 08:13 PM

So now we're going to switch from acres of surface parking to no parking at all, as if there aren't all kinds of options that could be pursued in between those extremes?



#5314 aastra

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Posted 05 June 2023 - 08:15 PM

 

I've always been completely open to my refrigerator expressing their self however they feel comfortable, even if they choose to identify as a stove, a dishwasher, or a combination of all three.

 

You might change your tune if your toaster ever decides it wants to be a deep fryer.



#5315 Nparker

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Posted 05 June 2023 - 08:20 PM

 

 

You might change your tune if your toaster ever decides it wants to be a deep fryer

I rather like the idea of an all-in-one appliance for making French Toast.



 



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