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#221 Jackerbie

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Posted 12 June 2018 - 03:58 PM

Does anyone know what this is all about?

 

Not exactly the best location for an inter-city bus passenger terminal.

 

Yes, this proposal went to the Burnside Gorge Community Association last night. Here's the description: "The Island Bus company will be presenting their proposal to add Vancouver Island passenger service to their existing bus freight terminal at 430 Burnside Road. There will be no changes to the existing building except for a signage change and additional landscaping along Burnside Road."

 

The applicant on the Dev Tracker is Tofino Bus.


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#222 Linear Thinker

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 11:35 AM

On the CoTW agenda for Thursday is a recommendation to extend the Capital City Station Bus Depot on Douglas at the Crystal Garden for 4 more years.



#223 Mike K.

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 12:35 PM

Right! It looks like it’s done rather well at that spot.

Btw, did we know the cost to take an intercity bus to Vancouver is now $70, one way?

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#224 Nparker

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 12:39 PM

...It looks like it’s done rather well at that spot...

Which is why I wonder that Tofino Bus wants to move its passenger services to Burnside.



#225 SgtNeonPanda

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 12:50 PM

Which is why I wonder that Tofino Bus wants to move its passenger services to Burnside.

Might just be maintenance/office space? Wilson's has their depot off Glanford. Not necessarily a lot of options around for that type of facility. 


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#226 Nparker

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 12:58 PM

Might just be maintenance/office space? ...

As per the CoV's Development Tracker "The City is considering a rezoning application to include use of transportation terminal bus passenger service"



#227 Kach

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 11:44 AM

Does the Tofino Bus stop there on it's way in/out of town to pick up/drop off freight?  If so, probably just another option for passengers to catch the bus...it's stopping there anyways.



#228 Jackerbie

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 11:47 AM

Does the Tofino Bus stop there on it's way in/out of town to pick up/drop off freight?  If so, probably just another option for passengers to catch the bus...it's stopping there anyways.

 

It does currently pick up freight at that location, so you are probably right



#229 Nparker

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Posted 15 June 2018 - 12:26 PM

Does the Tofino Bus stop there on it's way in/out of town to pick up/drop off freight?  If so, probably just another option for passengers to catch the bus...it's stopping there anyways.

Unless Tofino Bus has changed its routing since last December, the passenger service doesn't stop at the Burnside location.



#230 Jackerbie

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 11:03 AM

Bye bye Greyhound. They're ending all passenger and freight operations in Western Canada (BC to Manitoba) this fall. Only the Vancouver-Seattle route will remain. via http://www.cbc.ca/ne...umbia-1.4739459



#231 Rob Randall

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 07:05 PM

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#232 On the Level

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Posted 13 March 2019 - 10:18 PM

^

Using the Bank of Canada Inflation Calculator, it cost folks in 1938 $107.23 in today's dollars to go to Campbell River.  Today it costs $55.98 and they still can't fill a bus nor make it profitable.  I am assuming fuel costs?



#233 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 03 February 2020 - 05:47 AM

Six passengers on a Greyhound bus headed from Los Angeles to San Francisco were shot early Monday morning, the California Highway Patrol said.

 

All six shooting victims were taken to hospitals, CHP spokesman Steve Loftus said. Details on their conditions were not immediately available.
 
The shooting took place shortly before 1:30 a.m. in the Grapevine area, on Interstate 5 near Fort Tejon Road, Loftus said.
 
 
 
 

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 03 February 2020 - 05:47 AM.


#234 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 05 May 2020 - 05:18 AM

The area of our business most at risk is our scheduled services. Before the COVID-19 pandemic, it was no secret that the business of inter-city bus services had been struggling for years. There is no better example than the exit of Greyhound Canada from the Western Canadian marketplace in the fall of 2018.

 

With a 41% decline in ridership across the country, Greyhound Canada said it had been running on a deficit for the past several years. As a privately owned transportation provider, with no government subsidy to help cover costs, it simply could no longer afford to run unsustainable routes.

 

Since then, our group of companies has taken over some of Greyhound’s former routes. Our B.C. Connector serves Whistler, Kelowna and Kamloops, and our Vancouver Island Connector has services from downtown Victoria to Port Hardy, with connections to Tofino and Ucluelet. It did not take long for us to discover the many challenges that our predecessors faced.

 

 

https://www.timescol...hope-1.24129370


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 05 May 2020 - 05:18 AM.


#235 LJ

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Posted 05 May 2020 - 08:01 PM

I wonder if inter-city bus transport will make somewhat of a comeback if a lot of the smaller airlines go TU.


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#236 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 07 May 2020 - 04:48 AM

Greyhound Canada will temporarily shut down amid a 95 per cent decline in ridership.

The inter-city bus line says that it will suspend all service as of 11:59 p.m. on May 12.



#237 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 14 May 2020 - 11:14 AM

Tofino Bus Service has submitted an application to eliminate the Campbell River to Port Hardy leg of its route.

 

In the application to the Passenger Transportation Board, which issues licenses, the bus service said, “Due to the low ridership and lack of profitability of this route our company is forced to apply to eliminate service on this corridor.”

 

Annual ridership last year was 4068 passengers, meaning on the required daily trip, the average bus had just 5.5 passengers in each direction. The company claims to have lost $173,361 on Route 5 in 2019.

 

https://www.vicnews....e-north-island/


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#238 UserofVic

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Posted 14 May 2020 - 04:39 PM

4068 passengers is a lot of trips that'll be impossible without such a route. That can't be good for anyone unable to afford a car on the North Island.



#239 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 14 May 2020 - 04:43 PM

but it’s likely 1/500 of the vehicle trips on that route.

#240 UserofVic

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Posted 14 May 2020 - 05:53 PM

Ok, but how does that help people who can't drive? Transit isn't just about reducing traffic congestion, it's critical for providing social mobility, access to economic opportunities, healthcare, education, and other government services that can't be offered in every tiny community. It's likely something that we'll need to subsidize unless we want to further impoverish remote rural communities across the province.


Edited by UserofVic, 14 May 2020 - 05:56 PM.

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