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[Hotel Mike]

Exactly. How would it look if Council turned down extra officers who would be specializing in dealing with POC, and mending tumbledown indigenous fences? 

[Victoria Watcher]

Victoria and Esquimalt Police Board’s proposed budget price up 7 per cent from 2021

 

Department pay increases, new resources like six additional officers driving the cost increase

 

https://www.vicnews....cent-from-2021/

[Victoria Watcher]

Executives with the Greater Victoria Chamber of Commerce, Downtown Victoria Business Association, Destination Greater Victoria, Our Place Society, and Victoria Conservatory of Music have put their names to an open letter asking that Victoria City Hall approve VicPD’s increased funding request.

“What we’re really trying to impress upon mayor and council is that this is not an us versus them discussion – this is the downtown community coming together to say we need more resources for our police,” said Jeff Bray, executive director of the Downtown Business Association, pointing to the diverse range of signatories to the letter.


https://www.vicnews....udget-increase/


it’s not an is vs. them but it seems like it’s a taxpayers vs. them.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 29 October 2021 - 01:19 PM.

[Mike K.]

You don’t think taxpayers are concerned about the level of criminality in Victoria, and how slow police are to respond to emergencies because of the lack of resources?

What has become of this city in the last several years is staggering.

[Victoria Watcher]

Oh I agree.

But the cause of the increased police need is exactly what this council said would REDUCE policing costs. “Housing First” programs for 2,000 deadbeats.

There is no indication the increased police costs are caused by anything else.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 29 October 2021 - 04:45 PM.

[Mike K.]

Absolutely.

[Spy Black]

It's a bit of a delayed reaction ... if there's going to be any reaction at all.

 

Your taxes go up, because of who's sitting in City Hall making all the rules, and allowing crime to escalate to its current, rampant state.

You may have, or may not have voted in the last election ... but you're going to certainly vote in the upcoming election, and you're going to vote for a law and order Mayor and Council that propose to clean up the town.

 

Cleaning up the town takes 4 to 6 years, after which (maybe) VicPD requests a lower budget due to increased law and order.

 

Unfortunately, the entire process is dead slow, and takes years to correct ... and the current Mayor and Council still has a mandate in 2021/22, during which they will continue to inflict damage on the City of Victoria.

[Mike K.]

Functional councils are very appreciative of the four year term. The electorates of dysfunctional councils are struggling with the prospect of an additional year.

How do we balance that?

[Spy Black]

How do we balance that?

I think voters in the COV simply can't let TV dominate Council with what are (in reality) a relatively small number of votes.

It seemed in the old Peter Pollen and Bob Cross days that regular folks got out to the voting booth in much larger numbers, which tended to guarantee a business centric and socially responsible Mayor and Council.

 

Of course the SJW movement was pretty much non-existent back then, and Mayor and Council focused almost entirely on projects and undertakings that made the lives of COV residents better ... as opposed to the current Mayor and Council who focus on making COV residents lives far worse as each year passes ... and then (to rub salt into the wound) having to drum up the nerve to then raise those COV residents taxes such as to actually pay out of their own pockets for their own escalating misery!

[pontcanna]

Today's T-C:

 

 

[Stephen James]

You don’t think taxpayers are concerned about the level of criminality in Victoria, and how slow police are to respond to emergencies because of the lack of resources?

What has become of this city in the last several years is staggering.

I think the taxpayers are aware and the by-election was TVs canary in the coal mine.

Since the by-election, the "mine" has exploded, and there are few survivors.

[spanky123]

^ Unfortunately for the rest of us, if you are a TV or NDP insider you can get $10 a day daycare, subsidized housing and a family doctor. The homeless shelters won't get built in your neighbourhood and if a tent pops up it will be taken down pronto. Don't be surprised if the TV gang is re-elected.

[On the Level]

Has anyone heard what happened with the VicPD budget review at council?

[Mike K.]

Portland mayor Ted Wheeler is asking council to inject an additional $5 million into the police force and says Portlanders no longer feel safe in their city.

Mayor Ted Wheeler made the announcement at a press conference Wednesday. “Many Portlanders no longer feel safe in their city,” Wheeler said. “Business owners have closed up shop for fear of doing business in high risk areas. Commuters fear for their safety, whether taking public transport or going by foot. Parents are scared to let their children play outside.”

Sounds eerily familiar, doesn’t it? I bet it’s going to be a challenge to get good cops.

[A Girl is No one]

I’ve been following the Portland situation closely for a few years now given that it spells out what’s coming here.

Yes they bled a lot of cops over the past year and are having trouble recruiting.
Mayor Ted Wheeler was out protesting with antifa/BLM last summer - the same people who tried to lock up police staff in a building and set fire to it. (Good thing most of them are total nincompoops.) Wheeler was subsequently re-elected as mayor. His only opponent was a devout marxist.

But now Portland tourism has been destroyed - went from one of the top cities to one of the bottom ones in the US. I suspect this is what made Wheeler say this. To counter this, they are proposing to add a large DEI (diversity, equity,inclusion) department.

Sounds indeed really familiar.

[pontcanna]

Police complaints lead to recommendations

 

In the 2020/21 year, the OPCC received 55 complaints about Victoria police and ordered 5 investigations. There were 37 complaints about Saanich police, and 2 investigations. Central Saanich police had 7 complaints and no investigations. Oak Bay had 1 complaint and 3 investigations.

In Saanich, a member was dismissed for falsely certifying officers as drug recognition experts, a certification used to identify drug-impaired drivers. Saanich police submitted the complaint. The member retired before being formally dismissed.

In Victoria, a person filed a complaint about police entering their empty home through a window for a wellness check. The individual wasn’t home and later found out through a Freedom of Information request. The discipline authority found that while entering the home was reasonable, the resident should have been notified.

 

More: http://overstory.act...01d1191e3ca28b7

 

[pontcanna]

Retired Saanich police officer retroactively dismissed for misconduct, OPCC report says

November 8, 2021

A retired police officer on Vancouver Island was retroactively dismissed from his department after the conclusion of an investigation by B.C.'s Office of the Police Complaint Commissioner.

The Saanich police officer was responsible for recertifying the department's "Drug Recognition Experts," and knowingly signed off on several certifications for officers who had not completed the proper training, according to the OPCC.

The complaint included a total of 16 allegations against the officer, and the OPCC's discipline authority concluded that all 16 were substantiated.

The investigation concluded that the officer had committed "neglect of duty" by "recertifying a number of police officers, including himself, which was in contravention of the International Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP) DRE policy."

More: https://vancouverisl...-says-1.5656205

[Sparky]

Victoria Police offering $20K signing bonus for new officers.

Del looks so sad in the picture.

https://www.timescol....com/local-news

[Victoria Watcher]

ya.  they want officers to come to one of the most expensive jurisdictions in the country, to serve on a force with the highest caseload in the country.

[Victoria Watcher]

Some Saanich cop got fired. Not a single news outlet will name him.

Crazy.