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#41 m0nkyman

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 08:37 PM

Please tell me you are kidding.

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 08:37 PM

I am not kidding about the backhoe. I suppose what it is doin is anyone's guess.

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#43 zoomer

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 08:47 PM

maybe backhoe training..?



#44 Icebergalley

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 09:00 PM

A backhoe is playing with dirt on this lot. I forsee a new surface parking lot.




Is a parking lot a permitted use in the zone?

If so,

Wouldn't they need a permit?

Be required to meet certain standards?

And, with all the hassle some surface parking lot operator's have been getting over the last few years, would it even be worth the effort...

Edit: When I went by around 11:30 am today, City crews were measuring flows in the sewers at View and Vancouver.. and there are now a lot of surveyers' grafitti on the street and sidewalks...

#45 Rob Randall

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 10:07 PM

It would have to be rezoned in order to be used as a parking lot. This is why the Bambu lot cannot be used for parking.

I'm meeting with Charlayne Thornton-Joe next Monday on the rehabilitation of the sinking corner.

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#46 Ms. B. Havin

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 10:17 PM

I have this fantasy about recreating an urban stream or ravine there(**), with a bridge going over it. Note: I said "fantasy." I know it'll never happen. But it seems crazy that we're looking at fixing this constant sink-hole in a battle against nature, when maybe it would be easier (in a way) to go with the flow, let that area be what it wants to be (isn't it a covered up stream/ waterbed that flows to the harbour, exiting near Market Square?). Open it up, put a bridge type structure over the intersection, and turn it into an attraction? It could be a public art work, a nature study project, a piece of urban engineering, a -- dare I say? -- tourist attraction.

The raccoons would love it...

(**) EDIT: by "there," I don't mean the building lot, I mean the intersection (View & Vancouver).
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#47 gumgum

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Posted 23 February 2007 - 10:28 PM

I swear that sinkhole has sunk another foot since I took those pictures in August (page 1). And I don't think I'm exaggerating.

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 08:41 AM

It is a bog that is losing its water. The only way to fix it is either dig up the whole thing or pump water into it.

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#49 Icebergalley

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 01:15 PM

Is there a city map overlay that shows the former natural drainage on the current development.?

#50 Holden West

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 02:36 PM

Yes, there is a map called "Lost streams of Victoria" that you can get from the DFO. The GVPL has a copy on display.
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#51 Caramia

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 04:48 PM

I have this fantasy about recreating an urban stream or ravine there(**), with a bridge going over it. Note: I said "fantasy." I know it'll never happen. But it seems crazy that we're looking at fixing this constant sink-hole in a battle against nature, when maybe it would be easier (in a way) to go with the flow, let that area be what it wants to be (isn't it a covered up stream/ waterbed that flows to the harbour, exiting near Market Square?). Open it up, put a bridge type structure over the intersection, and turn it into an attraction? It could be a public art work, a nature study project, a piece of urban engineering, a -- dare I say? -- tourist attraction.

The raccoons would love it...

(**) EDIT: by "there," I don't mean the building lot, I mean the intersection (View & Vancouver).
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#52 Ms. B. Havin

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 09:56 PM

^ Well, with that raccoon avatar, how could you resist, eh? :lol:

It is intriguing to think about, though. There has been "deconstruction" in fashion (you know, with previously hidden seams deliberately turned to the garment's outside/exterior), and there's "deconstruction" in architecture... Why not in city engineering? Just a small patch (or two)... Just where the dip is the deepest (close to the sidewalks, at the NE and SE corners), with regular asphalt elsewhere on road... Just open those patches, footbridges in something "dead sexy," like gridded/mesh stainless steel over top, very industrial-looking, with a peek-a-boo view to nature doing her thing beneath... Something new to look at, the earth revealed, bogs, streams, subterranean doings... Oh well, dream on!
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#53 Caramia

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 10:17 PM

Who knows, if it can be imagined, it can be built!
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#54 Holden West

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 11:14 PM

Think of Rutledge park that Saanich built a few years ago on Inverness. It was a neighbourhood of old homes and they bought the entire street and turned in into a natural park, complete with a little boggy pond.
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Posted 24 February 2007 - 11:39 PM

boggy pond.


Boggy Pond would be a good name for a rock band.
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#56 Icebergalley

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 08:45 AM

isn't "deconstruction" the current green word for demolition

#57 Holden West

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 09:26 AM

Yes, but in Ms. B's sense it means not imposing something on nature--instead "going with the flow".
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#58 Caramia

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 11:04 AM

My understanding is that you peel off the finish to reveal the guts... so buildings where the structural elements are revealed instead of covered, plumbing might be located on the outside for instance. So in the urban context you would be revealing the geology of the city which is usually paved over to created an illusion of sameness. At least I hope that is what Ms B Havin is talking about rather than the "throw everything in the air and then built it as it falls approach.
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#59 Ms. B. Havin

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 11:32 AM

^ @Caramia: yeah, that's pretty much it. Exposing the "what" & "how" of what's underneath (in this case a natural formation that has been covered up).

UVic has a program in ecological restoration. Wonder if they've ever looked at what's going on at View & Vancouver?
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#60 Icebergalley

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 11:56 AM

Would an example of "opening it up" be the negative space in front of the Archives at the RBCM?

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