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#6501 Nparker

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 12:12 PM

I never realized the new path in Reeson Park was a wishbone. Who wins if someone breaks off the larger piece?



#6502 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 12:18 PM

It's almost overkill, but it looks quite nice, close up.


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#6503 spanky123

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 08:35 PM

Are people complaining because the painting isn't happening when they want it to? I think they'll paint when the work is done and painting makes most sense.... Lot's of issues with this project, but the paint schedule is not one of them.

 

I don't think anyone cares when it gets painted. If they delayed painting in order to get the bridge assembled on schedule then it is fair to ask if they skipped or rushed anything else.



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Posted 07 March 2018 - 09:32 PM

Are people complaining because the painting isn't happening when they want it to? I think they'll paint when the work is done and painting makes most sense.... Lot's of issues with this project, but the paint schedule is not one of them.

You may be missing the point.

 

It's not about painting the bridge to satisfy "complainers" ... it's about public optics, and at least trying to make an effort to build confidence and support as the bridge opening date approaches (by making it look at least moderately attractive).

 

Looking at a filthy, rusty, grubby bridge project day after day (as you do today) accomplishes nothing in terms of building bridge support amongst the public.

Discussions about paint and "optics" are a somewhat pointless conversation anyway, and likely worth drawing to a close. The COV and Huggett have never cared about the optics of this project ... which is why it suffers from "lame duck" syndrome even before it's been commissioned.

 

Personally, I don't care what it looks like.

I will always see it as a 120 million dollar debacle regardless of whether it's grubby and rusty, or shiny and all lit up in blue lights. (although I suppose like everything, constant exposure over the next 10 or 20 years will build a grudging acceptance, as it usually does in these kinds of projects).


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#6505 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 07:39 PM

So I've teamed up with the good folks at Willie's Bakery to make the last day and first day a bit of an event(s).

 

Drop on in if you want to meet VHF in person.  We have free commemorative FIRST DAY and LAST DAY postcards for you too.

 

FIRST DAY

LAST DAY


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#6506 GaryOak

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 10:21 PM

I sort of wish the opening and closing dates overlaped. so we could wonder the entirety of one bridge while the other is being used for traffic.

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 08:12 AM

On April 1st, Victorians will (finally) say good bye to the old Johnson Street bridge.

As a part of the original contract with PCL Construction, the nearly century old structure will be decommissioned and its parts sold for scrap. However, a local group called My Blue Bridge, is interested in re-purposing the metal and incorporating it into future plans for the city with the support of BRIGHT-YYJ awareness group.

“The initiative aims to highlight the legacy of this structure and the value in salvaging portions of the bridge to be integrated in meaningful ways throughout the urban environment,” they said in a statement.

“As a city with strong historical roots, incorporating valuable aspects of cultural heritage into modern technological and economic advancements is important in shaping the city’s future landscape. At the recent Discover Tectoria conference in Victoria, local tech companies showcased the future potential of the city, which is already experiencing momentous growth.”

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#6508 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 08:26 AM

I sort of wish the opening and closing dates overlaped. so we could wonder the entirety of one bridge while the other is being used for traffic.


Perhaps there is some possibility of that happening, just for pedestrians. Don’t know.

I’m trying to find out more about any City plans for a celebration.
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#6509 sdwright.vic

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 12:30 PM

^We can't afford one
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#6510 TallGuy

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 12:43 PM

You may be missing the point.

 

It's not about painting the bridge to satisfy "complainers" ... it's about public optics, and at least trying to make an effort to build confidence and support as the bridge opening date approaches (by making it look at least moderately attractive).

 

Looking at a filthy, rusty, grubby bridge project day after day (as you do today) accomplishes nothing in terms of building bridge support amongst the public.

Discussions about paint and "optics" are a somewhat pointless conversation anyway, and likely worth drawing to a close. The COV and Huggett have never cared about the optics of this project ... which is why it suffers from "lame duck" syndrome even before it's been commissioned.

 

Personally, I don't care what it looks like.

I will always see it as a 120 million dollar debacle regardless of whether it's grubby and rusty, or shiny and all lit up in blue lights. (although I suppose like everything, constant exposure over the next 10 or 20 years will build a grudging acceptance, as it usually does in these kinds of projects).

So how many more thousands of dollars would you like to see spent (wasted!) on an interim painting job? The best "optics" they can achieve is getting the bridge finished ASAP without any further budget increases.


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#6511 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 01:12 PM

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#6512 Jason-L

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 01:36 PM

Man, that's an ugly eye sore.



#6513 todd

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 01:39 PM

Why didn't you come say hi? https://youtu.be/5Uwco25w1nc



#6514 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 04:39 PM

It looks like closing and opening will be the same day, March 31st, with maybe 5 hours of no bridges (12-5).

 

 

City of Victoria announces opening day of new bridge
 

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#6515 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 08:04 PM

 
We are delighted to host Doug Clement Photography - and Doug himself - at Willie's Cafe & Bakery - at the foot of Johnson Street - on Saturday, March 31st. 10am to 4pm.
 
✪ FREE postcard - First of all, drop in and say hi - when you come, you will get a free custom LAST or FIRST day Johnson Street Bridge postcard, commemorating the last day of Ol' Blue or the first day of the new bridge, happening on the very same day. Doug's photography is on the LAST day postcard.
 
MORE / RSVP / invite friends: https://www.facebook...03563630105913/
 
✪ View, buy or order Doug Clement prints. Doug will be on hand with a variety of his work, in print form for you to purchase in various sizes. Or just chat with Doug about his photography. It's FREE to attend, just drop in.
 
MORE / RSVP / invite friends: https://www.facebook...03563630105913/

 

 

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#6516 spanky123

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Posted 09 March 2018 - 10:40 PM

 

It looks like closing and opening will be the same day, March 31st, with maybe 5 hours of no bridges (12-5).

 

 

City of Victoria announces opening day of new bridge
 

 

 

I am impressed. The City has 'guaranteed' that the engineers are going to sign off on the bridge next week. Why even bother with the formalities then?



#6517 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 15 March 2018 - 08:59 PM

So I've teamed up with the good folks at Willie's Bakery to make the last day and first day a bit of an event(s).

 

Drop on in if you want to meet VHF in person.  We have free commemorative FIRST DAY and LAST DAY postcards for you too.

 

FIRST DAY

LAST DAY

 

This will be the free "last day" front for the 5"x7" over-size postcard, if you'd like to drop in to Willie's Cafe and Bakery, meet VHF and/or Doug Clement, and take one to go.  10am to 4pm.

 

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Doug will be on hand to meet and talk to folks, and sell his other artwork if anyone is interested.

 

FACEBOOK event


Edited by VicHockeyFan, 15 March 2018 - 09:02 PM.

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#6518 spanky123

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Posted 18 March 2018 - 09:28 AM

Surprised that we didn't see an NR last week from the City that the bridge had passed it's engineering tests and safety check.



#6519 Hotel Mike

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Posted 18 March 2018 - 09:55 AM

I notice that there is some working going on at the bridge today, Sunday.


Don't be so sure.:cool:

#6520 Gary H

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Posted 18 March 2018 - 06:26 PM

Some updates...

 

The tent that was over a section of the span was there to enable installation of the special black roadbed surface on Panel D (the insert between the main deck span and bascule span).

 

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More welding and grinding on the area of the ring's upper counterweight covers.

 

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The concrete for the bascule roadbed span has been poured and covered with tarps.  The new surface on Panel D can be seen at the interface to the bascule span just in front of the tarps and appears darker than the main span's surface.

 

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They've been testing the bridge gates and associated lights today - and into the night.  The sound made by the gates when down is just like a railroad crossing - a bit of nostalgia?

 

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Edited by Gary H, 18 March 2018 - 07:14 PM.

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