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#7941 Mike K.

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Posted 10 July 2020 - 01:12 PM

They pay gas taxes for the roads they drive on.


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#7942 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 10 July 2020 - 01:14 PM

cyclists pay a tiny tiny fraction.

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#7943 GetLisaSomeHelps

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Posted 10 July 2020 - 01:20 PM

They pay gas taxes for the roads they drive on.

 

we all pay gas taxes on far more than just the fuel we buy at the pump.


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#7944 Mike K.

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Posted 10 July 2020 - 01:23 PM

we all pay gas taxes on far more than just the fuel we buy at the pump.

 

You pay gas taxes on things that aren't gas?

 

Now this I gotta hear.


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#7945 GetLisaSomeHelps

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Posted 10 July 2020 - 01:29 PM

You pay gas taxes on things that aren't gas?

 

Now this I gotta hear.

 

It's built into the price of almost every damn consumer good, construction project, plate of food at your favourite restaurant, beer, etc.


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#7946 Mike K.

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Posted 10 July 2020 - 01:34 PM

You're right.

 

While you just paid 4 cents in gas taxes to have your bike chain delivered from China to the Canadian Tire near your home, I just paid 7,800 cents in gas taxes to fill up my truck, plus the 4 cents for my chainsaw chain delivered from China to the Canadian Tire near my home.


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#7947 GetLisaSomeHelps

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Posted 10 July 2020 - 01:36 PM

You're right.

 

While you just paid 4 cents in gas taxes to have your bike chain delivered from China to the Canadian Tire near your home, I just paid 7,800 cents in gas taxes to fill up my truck, plus the 4 cents for my chainsaw chain delivered from China to the Canadian Tire near my home.

 

Who said anything about me? I drive 20,000 km a year...



#7948 Mike K.

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Posted 10 July 2020 - 01:38 PM

Oh yeah, then you're paying for those bike lanes.

 

What's the problem again?


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#7949 GetLisaSomeHelps

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Posted 10 July 2020 - 01:39 PM

Oh yeah, then you're paying for those bike lanes.

 

What's the problem again?

 

We are all paying for those bike lanes lol. Gas taxes covers a % of the cost.



#7950 Mike K.

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Posted 10 July 2020 - 01:41 PM

Didn't we calculate that road taxes account for something like $250 million in expenditures for drivers on Vancouver Island, annually?

 

And that doesn't include municipal taxation that pays for local roadway maintenance, etc. That's $250 million on top of whatever local taxes are paid to munis.


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#7951 GetLisaSomeHelps

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Posted 10 July 2020 - 01:44 PM

I guess my problem is we always quick to slam active/alternative transportation like there aren't significant benefits to our population by investing in it. It will take years if not decades to reap the rewards, but the ROI (it may not be easy to prove the true ROI over time) will be there.



#7952 GetLisaSomeHelps

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Posted 10 July 2020 - 01:46 PM

Didn't we calculate that road taxes account for something like $250 million in expenditures for drivers on Vancouver Island, annually?

 

And that doesn't include municipal taxation that pays for local roadway maintenance, etc. That's $250 million on top of whatever local taxes are paid to munis.

 

Mike, I think you may of realized it before, but road/gas taxes are one giant slush fund.



#7953 Mike K.

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Posted 11 July 2020 - 06:50 AM

They are now, but the were sold as Road taxes.

We often hear from anti-car activists that motorists don’t cover the costs of road work. But boy, do they ever.

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#7954 Linear Thinker

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Posted 24 July 2020 - 07:14 PM

Commerce Canoe is up at the Triangle park.

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#7955 A Girl is No one

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Posted 24 July 2020 - 09:49 PM

I think it’s a much better place for it than bastion square.
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#7956 exc911ence

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Posted 25 July 2020 - 08:28 AM

We can't have real flowers but metal ones are OK? Hope the alloys used in their construction was indigenous to this region. 



#7957 Nparker

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Posted 25 July 2020 - 08:39 AM

Looking at the above photo reminds me of what a wasted opportunity the current truncated proposal for the Northern Junk property is. The surrounding city-owned land will never have a functional use. Just more open, empty space in an area that all ready suffers from an abundance of it.



#7958 North Shore

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Posted 25 July 2020 - 10:19 AM

What a great site for a campsite!  Central to everything, great view of the harbour and new city amenities, raised platform to keep your bedding from getting wet during inclement weather, and some nice, big 'trees' to tie a tarp to.  What's not to like?


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Say, what's that mountain goat doing up here in the mist?

#7959 Nparker

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Posted 25 July 2020 - 02:45 PM

No good space to semi-disguise a bicycle chop shop though.

#7960 Gary H

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Posted 09 August 2020 - 05:49 PM

For those who have never witnessed our new bridge being lowered - at night, with full underside LED lighting (not done year round)...

 

Shot just after the Dynamic Beast crane barge came through.  All I can say is find the biggest screen you can!

 

https://youtu.be/Gbx67cFVFIk

 

JSB Night Bridge Lowering title.jpg

 

 


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