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[Mike K.]

Yeah, I dunno about having a thread for a topic that affects so many different facets of the community. Today it’s helicopter related. Tomorrow it’ll be the bridge again. And so on.

[Ismo07]

Here is a good piece that does some explaining.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...eline-1.5448363

 

So this is not about the pipeline really this is about land title and redirecting the pipeline.

[Mike K.]

The CBC keeps referring to the chiefs as “the” chiefs in that article, but they are not unanimous in their opposition to the line. You can only state “the” when referring to the entire group collectively, not only several of them.

“However, the Wet'suwet'en hereditary chiefs say...”

“The hereditary chiefs — who are the leaders of the nation's governance system in place before the imposition of the Indian Act — assert authority over 22,000 square kilometres of the nation's traditional territory...”

“Wet'suwet'en hereditary chiefs issue an eviction notice to Coastal GasLink...”

“Wet'suwet'en hereditary chiefs say the trees were felled by people on the territory out of fear for their safety.”

None of the articles I’m reading state how many chiefs there are and who among them backs the line and who doesn’t. There is a lack of information being presented by the media.

[VIResident]

Why do you think all the parties will come to the table?   Ask yourself what the agenda of the Wet'suwet'en hereditary chiefs is?   Why are they going against the will of the majority of the Wet'suwet'en and the councils elected by the members to govern and make decisions?

Why do you think Hereditary Chiefs were not working with Elected Chiefs?  Perhaps a tactic? All kinds of officials work with 'elected' politicians in the shadows so as to not show their hand.  

[Mike K.]

Here’s more from the Globe:

Coastal GasLink has said in court documents that Ms. Huson, who received the hereditary wing-chief (subchief) name Howihkat last year, is one of the two architects behind the Unist’ot’en camp that opposes the pipeline. Unist’ot’en is affiliated with Dark House, one of 13 Wet’suwet’en hereditary house groups.

Lawyers for Coastal GasLink say Ms. Huson and Warner Naziel are the co-founders of the Unist’ot’en camp, which was set up in 2010 to block pipelines through the Wet’suwet’en’s unceded traditional territory. By 2015, the camp had expanded to include a healing lodge. Ms. Huson and Mr. Naziel lived together for a decade as a common-law couple. They separated in early 2019.


Ms. Huson and her sister, Brenda Michell, were “forcibly removed off our territories and arrested,” according to a statement posted on Unist’ot’en’s website. RCMP also arrested Ms. Michell’s daughter, Karla Tait, who is the healing lodge’s director of clinical programming.

Ms. Huson’s uncle, Warner William, head chief of Dark House, is one of eight hereditary house chiefs who oppose Coastal GasLink. Mr. Naziel, head chief of Sun House, is also part of the campaign to block Coastal GasLink’s plans to construct a 670-kilometre pipeline to transport natural gas to the Kitimat terminal being built by LNG Canada, which wants to export liquefied natural gas to Asia. About 190 kilometres of the route cross Wet’suwet’en territory.

- https://www.google.c...n-bid-to-clear/

[Nparker]

Yeah, I dunno about having a thread for a topic that affects so many different facets of the community...

I am unsure if you're being facetious or not. The fact that the protests touch on so many facets of the community is exactly why they  should have their own thread and not be "buried" in numerous other threads.

It seems pretty clear to me there is a need for a thread called "Wet'suwet'en/Pipeline Protests" or something to that effect.

[Mike K.]

Ok, you’re right. I’ll create one now.

[Mike K.]

Protest thread: https://vibrantvicto...ews-and-issues/

Please continue the discussions on the protests there.

[Gary H]

Getting things back on topic...

 

There was a segment last night on CHEK News regarding the bridge's hydraulic system and the fact that the bridge is still being lifted and lowered at a slower speed (2-3 minutes vs. 90 seconds).  The issue appeared last summer and appears to be debris and plastic in the hydraulic fluid (the lift motors are hydraulic).  Replacing the filters hasn't helped.  It is hoped that a different type of filter from Germany will fix the problem for good.  The bridge is still under its 2-year warranty and is required to meet its 90-second lift time.

 

https://www.cheknews...planned-645467/

Edited by Gary H, 11 February 2020 - 12:12 PM.

[Nparker]

 

It is hoped that a different type of filter from Germany will fix the problem for good.

And if it doesn't, is there a 'plan B'?

[Mike K.]

Plan “B”ay Street Bridge.

[Rob Randall]

Getting things back on topic...

 

There was a segment last night on CHEK News regarding the bridge's hydraulic system and the fact that the bridge is still being lifted and lowered at a slower speed (2-3 minutes vs. 90 seconds).  The issue appeared last summer and appears to be debris and plastic in the hydraulic fluid (the lift motors are hydraulic).  Replacing the filters hasn't helped.  It is hoped that a different type of filter from Germany will fix the problem for good.  The bridge is still under its 2-year warranty and is required to meet its 90-second lift time.

 

https://www.cheknews...planned-645467/

 

And filling in for the role of cheerleader, formerly played by Dean Fortin, is Jonathan Huggett. "What's a minute or two in the grand scheme of things? Nothing to see here, move along!"

[sebberry]

Getting things back on topic...

 

There was a segment last night on CHEK News regarding the bridge's hydraulic system and the fact that the bridge is still being lifted and lowered at a slower speed (2-3 minutes vs. 90 seconds).  The issue appeared last summer and appears to be debris and plastic in the hydraulic fluid (the lift motors are hydraulic).  Replacing the filters hasn't helped.  It is hoped that a different type of filter from Germany will fix the problem for good.  The bridge is still under its 2-year warranty and is required to meet its 90-second lift time.

 

https://www.cheknews...planned-645467/

 

The real question - why are there bits of plastic floating around the hydraulic fluid?  

[Victoria Watcher]

well that's a good question right?  if they do not enter externally (hardly possible) then they are parts of the internal system.

[Mike K.]

They should be floating around the Pacific Ocean. Somebody has messed up.

[aastra]

 

...why are there bits of plastic floating around the hydraulic fluid?

 

The bits of plastic are less dense than the fluid. Next question...

[Victoria Watcher]

The bits of plastic are less dense than the fluid. Next question...

 

post your broom challenge results.

[sebberry]

Plastics in your oil?  What is the world coming to?

[Nparker]

...why are there bits of plastic floating around the hydraulic fluid?  

Those 17 million single use plastic bags had to go somewhere.

[Brantastic]

The triangle island is closed off with fencing and an excavator and a few staff are on site. Are they finally landscaping this?