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The Mondrian
Uses: condo, commercial
Address: 1090 Johnson Street
Municipality: Victoria
Region: Downtown Victoria
Storeys: 10
Condo units: 93 (studio/bachelor, 1BR, 2BR)
Sales status: sold out / resales only
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#1 Rob Randall

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Posted 22 December 2010 - 11:30 PM

Cook/Johnson condo project tries again

By Robert Randall • Published on Thursday, December 23, 2010
 

Proponents of a new condo building at the northwest corner of the Cook Street and Johnson Street intersection are hoping the third time’s a charm when a new design goes before city council in the new year.

The new owner is teaming up with architectural firm deHoog & Kierulf to present a fresh design for the site, the third since the lot at 1048 Johnson was targeted for redevelopment four years ago.

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#2 Baro

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 06:35 AM

5:1 density!! Me likey!
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#3 G-Man

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 06:53 AM

Sounds good to me. I do remain a little concerned about the lot next door. But perhaps a SoMA type building could go in there.

#4 D.L.

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 08:33 AM

I hope a "podium tower" isn't a bad thing. The previous design was perfect.

#5 Mike K.

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 08:45 AM

The original proposal looked like this:


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#6 Hotel Mike

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 08:53 AM

Wow. That might really pick up that area. Then there's the huge lot on the other side of Cook next to the medical centre. I wonder if this would be a catalyst for more happening there.

#7 gumgum

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 09:27 AM

Fingers crossed!

#8 aastra

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 11:53 AM

Why do they always seem to want to go back to the drawing board? The original renderings looked really good.

#9 gumgum

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 11:58 AM

^The previous design was an office. I don't think the previous entity would make a decent condo.

#10 Rob Randall

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 12:12 PM

I don't remember an office component.

The original proposal looked like this:


To clarify, that is the second version. I don't have an image of the very first one circa 2005 but it was quite different. I believe both versions were modified after much feedback, including Design Panel recommendations so it wouldn't surprise me if there were a half dozen iterations floating around. That photo depicts Kwan's design that resulted after people said the building should be more modern and broken up and with a corner entrance. I think Corazon and Juliet may have influenced it as the renderings for those popular buildings may have been around at the time.

Harris Green guidelines recommend staggered setbacks to encourage a terraced look to towers but developers and architects prefer straight-sided buildings for various reasons. De Hoog will propose a straight-sided tower pulled back from the podium that will satisfy the setback requirements.

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#11 Rob Randall

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 12:16 PM

This is what I've heard from developers and architects on why they dislike setback rules designed to create terraced towers.

  • They dislike the ziggurat look
  • More deck area exposed to the elements (waterproofing concerns)
  • Different sized floorplates make design and construction expensive

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#12 gumgum

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 12:23 PM

I could have sworn this was originally office.

#13 D.L.

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 12:34 PM

No that was residential. The developer may want to update the design of the building though to better reflect what type of units and price point the current market demands.

#14 amor de cosmos

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 04:48 PM

what if the cook st village went all the way to RAP? :dancingbanana:

#15 G-Man

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 10:09 PM

Well North of Pandora it would stop because that is North Park Village.

#16 amor de cosmos

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 08:32 AM

really? I didn't know it had a name

#17 Phil McAvity

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 01:00 PM

I'm still trying to figure out why the original design was nixed.
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#18 jklymak

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Posted 24 December 2010 - 01:44 PM

^ It wasn't - it just didn't get built because of the economy.

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Posted 25 December 2010 - 01:10 PM

As I recall Fred Rohani and company bought the property. He built the Aria and many other projects in town. His dad built the tower at 747 Fort St

#20 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 25 December 2010 - 04:36 PM

As I recall Fred Rohani and company bought the property. He built the Aria and many other projects in town. His dad built the tower at 747 Fort St


A condo sales centre is going into the vacant storefront of the Aria (next to Armeni Jewelers); the original plans to lease the space to a nail/tanning salon fell through.

If Alpha Developments is planning to build the proposed tower at Cook/Johnson then it is highly likely that the condo sales centre under construction at the Aria is associated with this new project.

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