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#41 Holden West

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 10:49 AM

I think we have to face the fact that we have reached the limit of locals who are interested in attending local hockey. No amount of tweaking will somehow double attendance.

The only way is to cultivate interest with young people over time, actually create new fans from scratch. I believe the Vancouver Grizzlies basketball team were successful in this for a while but it was not enough.
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#42 spanky123

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 12:08 PM

The fact of the matter is that Victoria's population is rapidly aging as younger families leave the area and retirees move in.

The 55+ crowd would rather watch Burton Cummings or Bruce Cockburn then a semi-pro or minor league hockey game.

#43 Mike K.

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 12:31 PM

To be fair, though, the arena does not only draw City of Victoria residents. I'm sure CoV residents represent only a fraction of those in attendance.

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#44 pontcanna

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 01:16 PM

And then...it all went quiet.

SK's seem to be getting their act together (with PV on long term sick) in good time for the playoffs. Will a decent "cup run" (to use UK vernacular) make any difference as to what happens next season? Win or lose, the SK's are now lame ducks to the broader public and a damn difficult sale to the corporate sector ("aren't you guys going under?").

#45 Moosebeer

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 01:39 PM

There are a lot of National Hockey League fans (Canuck Fans) in Victoria. Many are willing to catch a ferry to Vancouver and back, pay for a hotel and spend $200.00 for a ticket. When it comes to supporting WHL or ECHL hockey in Victoria these same people complain that $20.00 is too much to pay. Go figure.

I am a fan and supporter of the ECHL and I will also support the WHL if it comes to town, but I do not believe there will be a significant change to the attendance figures because the majority of people in the region will not support either league.

#46 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 04:30 PM

The Q is reporting:

4:30PM: message sent from The Victora Salmon Kings says the team & Save-On-Foods Memorial Centre will make a major announcement tomorrow. -Ryan

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 07:47 PM

The Q is reporting:

4:30PM: message sent from The Victora Salmon Kings says the team & Save-On-Foods Memorial Centre will make a major announcement tomorrow. -Ryan


Oooh! Tantalizing!

Bear Mountain Arena here we come?

Make way for the WHL?

#48 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 07:49 PM

CHEK is now reporting that Darren Parker might somehow be involved. He and his family owned the Seals, and currently own the Regina Pats of the WHL.
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#49 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 05:24 AM

Salmon bites: The S-Kings have scheduled a press conference for 10: 30 a.m. today. Reportedly, the team will announce that Darren Parker, former president and owner of baseball's now defunct Victoria Seals, is joining the organization. Parker's father Russ Parker owns the WHL Regina Pats.


Read more: http://www.timescolo...l#ixzz1I5ZbG1bY
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#50 Greg

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 07:07 AM

Maybe he can bring the Seals video scoreboard with him. A good way to get new hockey fans interested, be they young people or ex-pats (Victoria has a few of those too) is to show instant replays so that folks who have trouble following the action at first get more into the game.

Plus, the arena would seem just a little less bush league...

#51 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 07:18 AM

Maybe he can bring the Seals video scoreboard with him. A good way to get new hockey fans interested, be they young people or ex-pats (Victoria has a few of those too) is to show instant replays so that folks who have trouble following the action at first get more into the game.

Plus, the arena would seem just a little less bush league...


Ooooohhh, good call!
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#52 Lorenzo

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 08:42 AM

Then there is this nugget:

http://www.timescolo...=megadrop_story

#53 G-Man

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 10:28 AM

The scoreboard is owned by the city not the Seals.

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#54 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 11:46 AM

The scoreboard is owned by the city not the Seals.



Did the Seals donate it? Because I know the Seals bought it, the subject came up at the press conference I attended where they announced they quit.
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#55 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 12:00 PM

Darren Parker has been named VP Marketing and Sales.
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#56 G-Man

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 01:04 PM

Yes the sign was a donation.

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#57 pontcanna

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 04:31 PM

Here's an odd thing. Your beloved home team (Chilliwack Bruins) picks up sticks and moves to Victoria. You're heartbroken. But the following week the news comes out that you've imported another money-losing WHL franchise so you're in the same league but with different kids, coaches, etc. Hey presto!

I don't recall this being done before. Anyone?

http://www.chilliwac...l#ixzz1I8GkscwV

League goes silent on rumoured Chilliwack Bruins sale

BY TYLER OLSEN, CHILLIWACK TIMES MARCH 30, 2011

Nobody is talking on the record, but CKNW sports reporter Jim Mullin is reporting that multiple trusted sources say a Victoria group has completed a deal to buy the Chilliwack Bruins and move the team to the Island.

CKNW isn't the only news outlet reporting that a deal to move the club is done.

Rogers Sportsnet's Sam Cosentino told an Edmonton radio station Tuesday that a "pretty good" source has told him that a deal is done, something he repeated to the Times Wednesday morning.

But the silence continues from those parties involved in the purported deal.

Dave Dakers, the president of RG Properties sports and entertainment, told the Times Wednesday that "When and if there's anything ever to announce about the WHL, but at this time there's nothing to say," he said.

Since telling the Times earlier this month that the Western Hockey League would favour a buyer that would keep the team in Chilliwack, WHL commissioner Ron Robison has refused to comment on the ownership saga.

Moray Keith, a minority owner of the Bruins who has offered to buy the club, has also not returned calls. Keith is a principal in the Chiefs Development Group, which operates Prospera Centre.

But Mullin reports that Keith and partner Jim Bond were shut out of the bidding, despite offering $7.75 million to buy the club.

The lack of information has rankled Bruins fans, who are concerned that the team may have played its last game in Chilliwack.

After losing the first two games of their first round playoff series against the Spokane Chiefs, Chilliwack must win two of three games this week in order to get to a sixth game at Prospera Centre.

Tim Kooistra says fans, who have made an emotional investment in the franchise, deserve to know if their team will be back next year.

"It's been really impossible to find any information. That's been the most frustrating thing because we may have seen our last games Friday and Saturday."

Keith told Mullin last week that he and Bond were pursuing another money-losing team in the WHL, in case the Bruins couldn't be kept in Chilliwack.


#58 G-Man

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 07:48 PM

They are not going to announce anything while the teams are in the playoffs if it is true as it would kill sales. No one goes to watch a dead horse.

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#59 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 30 March 2011 - 08:00 PM

No one goes to watch a dead horse.


Some do:

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#60 tedward

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 07:28 AM

The fact of the matter is that Victoria's population is rapidly aging as younger families leave the area and retirees move in.

Interesting interpretation of demographic patterns. I was born here but have really only lived here since early 80's. I don't get the impression that the average age of Greater Victoria residents has gone up significantly between now and then (purely anecdotal I admit). This city has long been known as a retirement haven and when I graduated from UVic I was one of the very few of my friends who did not move to Vancouver or beyond.

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