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#6861 Jackerbie

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 09:56 AM

Ok, I'm glad common sense prevailed. The prospect of having to add dozens of buses to the roads and increase operating budgets by tens of millions just to support the ridership of 1/3 of students in grades 6-12 was a daunting proposition that would have required higher fares, higher gasoline taxes, a new transit yard and a significant increase in bus drivers, which the organization is already struggling to attract and maintain.

 

Interesting fact is that there are approximately 700 drivers working for the Victoria Regional Transit System.

 

Well, the common sense that prevailed is that all of those things are needed anyways, and removing one source of revenue would make improvements difficult. I think it was Haynes who said that most of the Saanich residents he spoke with though service level was a more significant barrier than fares.

 

This was a case where I think Helps was blinded by what might be beneficial to core residents and missed what the rest of the region's residents are asking for. 



#6862 Mike K.

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 10:12 AM

Needed incrementally, yes, but not over a span of only several years in addition to other expansion requirements. The pressures from making transit free for so many thousands of potential riders could have broken the system (like the Upass did when it was first introduced and commuters living along UVic routes were SOL during rush periods). Bussing was awful when they did that, and that’s what forced me to have to drive to campus every day.

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#6863 Nparker

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Posted 15 August 2019 - 10:15 AM

...This was a case where I think Helps was blinded by what might be beneficial to core residents and missed what the rest of the region's residents are asking for. 

If by "beneficial to core residents" you mean "beneficial to Lisa's voting base" then I agree.



#6864 BCTransitLTC

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 10:54 AM

Just beware; not every single bus has NextRide and/or working NextRide equipment. 

 

My paddle starts late in the morning (7:40) and I received an old red and blue New Flyer bus (with the old, hard to read sign) and it had no NextRide system, as well as no "annunciator". There's also a few shuttle type buses without NextRide equipment. 



#6865 Cats4Hire

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Posted 16 August 2019 - 11:32 AM

Just beware; not every single bus has NextRide and/or working NextRide equipment.

My paddle starts late in the morning (7:40) and I received an old red and blue New Flyer bus (with the old, hard to read sign) and it had no NextRide system, as well as no "annunciator". There's also a few shuttle type buses without NextRide equipment.


If you're referring to the comments we made about buses not showing up that were detoured I was watching the routes and as soon as they turned off the proper route they just popped out of existence until they got back to regular route and popped back in

#6866 Mike K.

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Posted 20 August 2019 - 12:40 PM

Need a safe ride home after a night on the town? Hop on a bus and let BC Transit do the driving!

Starting September 3, late night service will be extended by one hour (through approximately 2:30-3AM) on select routes, so you can stay out late and let us get you home safe. The late night service will be effective on routes:

· 4 UVic/Downtown
· 6 Downtown/Royal Oak Exchange
· 14 UVic/Vic General
· 15 Esquimalt/UVic
· 27 Gordon Head/Downtown
· 28 Majestic/Downtown
· 50 Langford/Downtown


In addition to extending late night service, BC Transit and the Victoria Regional Transit Commission are announcing service improvements on a number of routes in the Victoria Regional Transit System. These service changes will look to improve upon service reliability and route frequency.

The service improvements will include:

· 26 Dockyard/UVic: service frequency improvements (all service days)
· 32 Royal Oak/Cordova Bay: weekend frequency improvements
· 39 Westhills/Interurban/Royal Oak/UVic: service frequency improvements (all days)

Eight additional heavy-duty buses are also being added to the fleet to help with growing ridership demands in the region.

Service levels on routes servicing post-secondary and secondary schools will be reinstated to reflect increased demand when schools are in session.

Route 14 Vic General/UVic will remain on detour using the Johnson Street Bridge until further notice. Route 10 James Bay/Royal Jubilee will remain on detour until construction is complete.

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#6867 Cats4Hire

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Posted 20 August 2019 - 12:43 PM

I never realized the 30/31 don't have late-night service. I wonder why people in Gordon Head and along Quadra need it over those along Carey and Glanford. 



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Posted 20 August 2019 - 01:08 PM

Also something minor I noticed (which is true for the current rider's guide as well so it means nothing probably) the 9 says "Uvic via Hillside" and "Royal Oak Exchange via Gorge" while the sign on the bus and the talking voice all say "via Hillside - Gorge" for both directions. Most buses don't even list the "via" stuff on the Rider's Guide (4 is just Uvic/Downtown) with only the 3, 9, 10, 53, 82, and 87 doing it for some reason. 



#6869 Cats4Hire

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Posted 20 August 2019 - 02:28 PM

26 is also now considered a Frequent Route guaranteeing 15 minute or better service from 7 AM to 7 PM Monday-Friday



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Posted 20 August 2019 - 03:30 PM

The December service change fiasco won't be happening this year; December reduction in service starts after UVic ends classes for the exam break.  UVic ends on 4 Dec, service change happens on 6 Dec.  January schedule and UVic session both begin on 6 Jan.


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#6871 Cats4Hire

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Posted 20 August 2019 - 03:59 PM

Interesting date. As you point out that's two days after Uvic's last day but it actually is Camosun's last day so Interurban still has a day of just as many people with less 8s, 21s and 39s compared to the rest of the year. I wonder why they didn't just wait until the Monday opposed to the Friday.

#6872 vortoozo

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Posted 20 August 2019 - 06:04 PM

I never realized the 30/31 don't have late-night service. I wonder why people in Gordon Head and along Quadra need it over those along Carey and Glanford. 

 

Much of route 30 is duplicated by another route that has late-night service (50). Most of the rest of the route is within a 20 minute walk from a serviced late night stop (either route 6 or 50). Only the section between Carey & Kenneth to Ridgebank & Carey are longer. Resources are much better deployed to those routes that don't have the same duplication.



#6873 Cats4Hire

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Posted 20 August 2019 - 06:58 PM

Much of route 30 is duplicated by another route that has late-night service (50). Most of the rest of the route is within a 20 minute walk from a serviced late night stop (either route 6 or 50). Only the section between Carey & Kenneth to Ridgebank & Carey are longer. Resources are much better deployed to those routes that don't have the same duplication.

What about 31? 27/28 have that case too where it seems most of one route is within 20 minutes of the other so why not say run 27 and 31 as late night but not 28 and 30? I guess most of the route is also duplicated but it would also help that huge area between Quadra and the TCH with no other late night service. 



#6874 vortoozo

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Posted 20 August 2019 - 08:31 PM

27/28 late night service is complementary, with each route once an hour in half hour intervals. There's no real duplication.

 

Moving any of the existing runs to a 30/31 would create a situation where there's fewer people within walking distance of a late night route. It would be a step backwards. 



#6875 On the Level

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Posted 20 August 2019 - 09:37 PM

Who is paying for all of this?  NextRide and now extra late night runs.  Certainly not calculated into any fares.

 

Transit USSR style.



#6876 Cats4Hire

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Posted 21 August 2019 - 05:19 AM

Who is paying for all of this? NextRide and now extra late night runs. Certainly not calculated into any fares.

Transit USSR style.


They just got a grant (either earlier this year or late next year) from the provincial and federal governments for Nextride and another one about a month ago to pay for new buses (a bunch are supposed to be electric) so I assume it came from that one.

 



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