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Residences at the Empress
Uses: rental, commercial
Address: 700 Douglas Street
Municipality: Victoria
Region: Downtown Victoria
Storeys: 8
Bosa Development has plans to erect an eight-storey rental building with ground floor commercial space southea... (view full profile)
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#61 Mike K.

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 01:27 PM

Fairmont had considered developing a south wing about 8-9 years ago with Westbank. The idea never went anywhere but they had planned at least as tall as the original hotel, if not taller (the newer north wing is taller than the oldest part of the hotel).

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the residential concept wasn't quite substantial.


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#62 D.L.

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 04:00 PM

From - http://www.cfax1070....ch-bus-terminal

 

"Nat Bosa says it would be a small building designed to complement the Empress... He says it would contain an estimated 60-70 suites... [Pam] Madoff thinks the zoning for the property would allow a building of up to 10 or 12 storeys."



#63 aastra

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 04:40 PM

That sounds about right. It should complement the Empress Hotel, but it shouldn't resemble the Empress Hotel.


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Posted 22 November 2014 - 08:36 AM

commenter brought up the belleville terminal as a new location

“We want to see [people] dropped off in the downtown core,” said Frank Bourree, board chairman of the Greater Victoria Chamber of Commerce and a tourism consultant. “However, they don’t need a big bus depot, really. You could drop off passengers on the sidewalk downtown somewhere.”

Fairmont Empress Hotel owner Nat Bosa hopes to build a high-end residential rental property on his bus-depot property. He is also spending $30 million to upgrade the Empress and its grounds.

Losing the bus depot is not a dramatic blow, since the property could be better used, Bourree said.

But, he said, the drop-off for passengers needs to be located south of Johnson Street and as close to the harbour as possible.

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John Wilson, owner of Wilson’s Transportation Ltd., which leases space at the current depot and operates Grey Line Sightseeing double-decker buses and an airport service, favours a much smaller location downtown.

A downtown storefront for tickets and parcels, a small waiting area and curbside pickup and drop-off area for passengers are all that’s required, Wilson said, adding buses would be there for only five to 15 minutes. “It doesn’t have to be a stand-alone building.”

All three companies that use the depot — Pacific Coach, Greyhound and Wilson’s — realized that the facility was not long for this world, Wilson said.

The property is leased on a monthly basis to Greyhound Canada, which acts as Pacific Coach’s on-site agent.

http://www.timescolo...s-say-1.1616676

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#65 Fairbanks

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 10:59 AM

As with all things "Victoria" when it comes do development permits...

 

I predict that PCL will abandon this building long before the 18 months is up and the building will sit vacant and derelict for about 5 years while the City sits on it's thumbs yet again.  



#66 Nparker

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 11:04 AM

...I predict that PCL will abandon this building long before the 18 months is up and the building will sit vacant and derelict for about 5 years while the City sits on it's thumbs yet again.  

Oh how I wish this wasn't likely true.  :whyme:



#67 Mixed365

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 11:40 AM

Oh how I wish this wasn't likely true.  :whyme:

Looking at our current council that could be what happens. 


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#68 Rob Randall

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 03:51 PM

That sounds about right. It should complement the Empress Hotel, but it shouldn't resemble the Empress Hotel.

 

I'd really like to see an architectural jewel on that corner. Situated between two iconic Rattenbury structures we demand no less. I'm thinking how the Magnolia hotel enhances its location with rich attention to architectural detail. It's classic without slavishly imitating heritage. No stucco, no HardiPlank.

 

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#69 Nparker

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 03:54 PM

 ...No stucco, no HardiPlank...

This for certain - PLEASE!



#70 LJ

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 06:46 PM

The restaurant side of the Spaghetti Factory is only a very, very small part of their business.  The manufacturing (factory) side is where all the money is.  They probably supply 75% of Western Canada's spaghetti.

You sure about that? AFAIK they are just a chain restaurant and they probably make some of their own pasta but I don't think they are supplying anyone else.

 

No spaghetti I buy is made by them.


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#71 aastra

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 08:20 PM

Is it just me or has this been happening a lot lately?


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#72 lanforod

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 11:21 PM

You sure about that? AFAIK they are just a chain restaurant and they probably make some of their own pasta but I don't think they are supplying anyone else.

 

No spaghetti I buy is made by them.

I wonder who sold VHF that bill of goods. I call BS as well. http://en.wikipedia....aghetti_Factory



#73 Matt R.

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 11:47 PM

Don't feed the troll.

 

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#74 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 09:06 AM

Is it just me or has this been happening a lot lately?


Ya it is.
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#75 Bingo

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Posted 03 February 2015 - 09:44 PM

WRINKLE  REMOVAL

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#76 Bingo

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Posted 03 February 2015 - 09:54 PM

The restaurant side of the Spaghetti Factory is only a very, very small part of their business.  The manufacturing (factory) side is where all the money is.  They probably supply 75% of Western Canada's spaghetti.

 

 Todays Factory Special... old spaghetti   :confused:

 

 

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#77 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 05 January 2016 - 02:29 PM

Does anyone know if construction will be underway on this project this summer? 



#78 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 05 January 2016 - 02:32 PM

No plans have been submitted yet.
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#79 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 05 January 2016 - 02:50 PM

No plans have been submitted yet.

 

Is a rezoning required... or just a development permit?



#80 johnk

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Posted 05 January 2016 - 05:40 PM

Rather than trying to recreate The Empress I would prefer a new structure that relates to the conference centre with perhaps some details referencing The Empress. The brick box has to go, a prime corner site deserves much more.

Edited by johnk, 05 January 2016 - 05:41 PM.


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