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[Mike K.]

No dates as of yet.

[Glen]

thanks for your reply Mike.

[Mike K.]

No problem. We'll post that info here as soon as we have an update.

 

And don't forget to follow the project on Citified. If you setup an account, if data changes you'll get a ping.

[Nparker]

No dates as of yet.

I imagine we'll know something is up when we see the angry villagers with pitchforks & torches.

[VicHockeyFan]

No dates as of yet.

 

We have this:

 

New plans include reduced setbacks (not sure what this means, probably reduced set-back variances?), reduced massing, reduced height, a deleted 6 story mechanical, 7 units deleted, over 4000 feet of build-able square feet deleted and a commitment of the 9 rentals to 10 years at 10 percent below market rental.

 

They are at design panel at the end of the month and then hoping to move forward to committee of the whole as well as public hearing.

[Nparker]

Once this is down to a one-storey, 1500 square foot shelter for stray cats, it'll be a slam-dunk to get the NIMBY's to accept it.

[Mike K.]

This is a five storey building with the "sixth" being a mechanical "floor," aka an elevator shaft, so are they simply reducing that or are they down to four storeys and a mechanical floor?

[VicHockeyFan]

This is a five storey building with the "sixth" being a mechanical "floor," aka an elevator shaft, so are they simply reducing that or are they down to four storeys and a mechanical floor?

 

No, they have just taken the mechanical off the "6th" floor.  I think with a little more expense for an enhanced hydraulic elevator, you can do that.  ie. 4-floor buildings do not have a mechanical on top.  Only 7 units have been reduced.

[Nparker]

...Only 7 units have been reduced.

And "4000 feet of build-able square feet..." 

[Mike K.]

Yup, that's what I thought. So the Fairfield CA can no longer claim it's a six storey building (as silly as that assertion was in the first place).

[RFS]

The whole debate is beyond silly

[LJ]

Why don't they just build whatever they want. The city has shown that no permits are required for whatever you want to do, legal or not, no business licenses are needed so basically everything is green lit.

[Nparker]

Why don't they just build whatever they want. The city has shown that no permits are required for whatever you want to do, legal or not, [and] no business licenses are needed so basically everything is green lit.

I know you are being facetious LJ, but I almost wish someone was willing to challenge the city's hypocrisy in just this manner. For a start, all legitimate businesses in the City of Victoria should refuse to pay or renew business licenses until the city insists all those operating in its jurisdiction are treated the same way. By what authority can the city shut some of them down while allowing others to continue to operate unabated? The same goes for outdoor burning, noise bylaws, parking tickets and any other infraction where "special interests" are given a pass while the rest of us have to play by the rules. I am getting more and more frustrated at the way this city is being governed by a Council that chooses not to treat all of its citizens and businesses with equal respect, and enforcing the same set of rules for everyone.

[LJ]

^I agree. The fastest way to make a change is to vote with your feet, move to Saanich, Oak Bay or wherever. Reduce the income for these idiots by half. We used to make a trip into town every week or two to do some shopping and have lunch, now we don't. We go to the Beacon for an ice cream from time to time and that is about it.

If we have visitors staying with  us we will take a scenic drive along the waterfront but we don't stop and get out of the car anymore.

 

Such a shame that a couple of morons can turn what was a beautiful city into a cesspool so quickly.

 

When their tax base is nothing but homeless people, and misguided activists even they should realize that socialism only works until you run out of other peoples money.

[nagel]

^I agree. The fastest way to make a change is to vote with your feet, move to Saanich, Oak Bay or wherever. Reduce the income for these idiots by half. We used to make a trip into town every week or two to do some shopping and have lunch, now we don't. We go to the Beacon for an ice cream from time to time and that is about it.

If we have visitors staying with  us we will take a scenic drive along the waterfront but we don't stop and get out of the car anymore.

 

Such a shame that a couple of morons can turn what was a beautiful city into a cesspool so quickly.

 

When their tax base is nothing but homeless people, and misguided activists even they should realize that socialism only works until you run out of other peoples money.

What's more likely is people will move, still own their CoV property, and rent it to these supposed misguided activists who will continue to vote for Isitt et al.  So basically the status quo.

[RFS]

We need to get an Atlas Shrugged type of thing going. We'll build a new Victoria deep in the mountains

[sebberry]

 

We have this:

 

New plans include reduced setbacks (not sure what this means, probably reduced set-back variances?), reduced massing, reduced height, a deleted 6 story mechanical, 7 units deleted, over 4000 feet of build-able square feet deleted and a commitment of the 9 rentals to 10 years at 10 percent below market rental.

 

They are at design panel at the end of the month and then hoping to move forward to committee of the whole as well as public hearing.

 

 

Hack and slash.  The Victoria way. 

 

Most of the NIMBYs opposed to this will be pushing up the daisies (or planning for it) before this building needs its first re-paint.  By lobbying against development that many would say is already conservative for a capital city, they're helping to make the squeeze even tighter for future generations. 

[Nparker]

I couldn't have said it better myself sebberry. 

[Mike K.]

This flyer is being circulated around the Cook Street Village neighbourhood.

 

Image supplied by Steve Hurst.

 

[Rob Randall]

Out of character? What is the present character? Would changes add or detract character? Or would you characterize it as merely a different type of character?