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[dkuitu]

 

Our population is growing at 1.6% per year. So solving for 2023 we have 445,000ish (I can't find an updated chart) That means from 2018 to 2023 we gain approx. 32,000. That means we're gaining 3 people for every car.

 

[dkuitu]

 

 

Our population is growing at 1.6% per year. So solving for 2023 we have 445,000ish (I can't find an updated chart) That means from 2018 to 2023 we gain approx. 32,000. That means we're gaining 3 people for every car.

 

(432,062 - 400,562) / 400,562 = 0.08

8% / 5 years = 1.6%

432,000 (1.016) = 438,912 (2022)
438,912 (1.016) = 445,934 (2023)

 

Edited by dkuitu, 24 October 2023 - 01:26 PM.

[Mike K.]

Somebody doesn’t understand economics.

Of course it makes a “real world difference”.

There is not cent of difference between having and not having gas.

[Victoria Watcher]

Two identical homes. One with gas or gas option, one without? Huge difference.

Same for car charger.

Some people will never buy a home without gas cooking.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 24 October 2023 - 01:39 PM.

[Mike K.]

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Our population is growing at 1.6% per year. So solving for 2023 we have 445,000ish (I can't find an updated chart) That means from 2018 to 2023 we gain approx. 32,000. That means we're gaining 3 people for every car.

You’re adding a sixth year to a five year metric, 2018-2023 for population, but we’re only factoring in five for vehicles (2018-2022), and you’re adding all of the southern Gulf Islands, which the vehicle data doesn’t capture.

[Mike K.]

Two identical homes. One with gas or gas option, one without? Huge difference.

Same for car charger.

Some people will never buy a home without gas cooking.

Zero difference, in fact. The value only exists in the minds of internet debaters.

[Victoria Watcher]

Wall Street Journal:


Why Having a Gas Stove Can Increase Your Home’s Value

Despite recent controversy about gas stoves, home buyers say they prefer them over electric units. WSJ’ personal-finance reporter Veronica Dagher joins host J.R. Whalen to explain why.

https://www.wsj.com/...aa-3f12a9e94a19

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 24 October 2023 - 01:50 PM.

[Victoria Watcher]

The Pros and Cons of Natural Gas Appliances in Residential Homes

According to a study by the National Association of Home Builders, homes with natural gas appliances sell for around 6% more

https://energy5.com/...sidential-homes

[Mike K.]

It has zero impact locally.

If it did, you would have realtors advising clients to save 6%, by choosing a home in a neighbourhood without natural gas.

[Victoria Watcher]

A lot of people that grew up here with no gas (it didn’t come widely until the 90’s) have no idea how desired it is with others that have never lived without it, elsewhere in Canada and around the world.

And anyone that has a BBQ hookup knows how much better that is than lugging propane tanks around.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 24 October 2023 - 03:29 PM.

[Mike K.]

Oh I agree it’s great, but it’s not going to sway someone away from a place they love. Not in this market anyway, where prices are very high and availability limited.

I can’t wait to get my bbq connected to a gas line. But first I have some concrete work to do, then I’ll run the line at the same time.

[Victoria Watcher]

While it’s rarely possible to create two properties that are similar in every other way, except gas - in the aggregate it simply IS an advantage, and anyone with a simple economics understanding knows this.

94 times out of 100, it won’t help, like you say. But 6 times in 100, it does move the buyer.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 24 October 2023 - 03:40 PM.

[Mike K.]

We like to think these things matter, but they don't. There's much more emotion in buying homes than just economics.

[Victoria Watcher]

I just quoted two ****ing good sources.

Show your links to the opposite.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 24 October 2023 - 03:52 PM.

[Mike K.]

Your links are worthless, like your gas.

 

The 'experts' are virtually always wrong, about mostly everything.

[Victoria Watcher]

WTF.

Alice in chains. On the Malahat.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 24 October 2023 - 04:03 PM.

[max.bravo]

Gonna side with VW. My experience in hvac says 100% of people with natural gas service are glad to have it. I meet many people who wish they could get gas service.

Especially in areas closer to ‘rural’ where they rely on wood stoves (labor intensive), propane (inconvenient/expensive), or electric heat (useless when a storm knocks out power).

Homeowners still want natural gas. I can’t imagine it’s not a selling feature.

[Nparker]

...Homeowners still want natural gas...

Tell that to the woke.

[Barrrister]

I would not consider buying any house with a heat pump. Period. Don't want to be in a neighborhood where you end up listening to squeaky heat pumps every time you go outside. 

[aastra]

 

Don't want to be in a neighborhood where you end up listening to squeaky heat pumps every time you go outside.

 

Squeaky Heat Pumps were a one-hit wonder, no argument. But it was a darned catchy hit. I think I could tolerate hearing it once or twice per day.

Edited by aastra, 25 October 2023 - 10:29 AM.