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#41 Daveyboy

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Posted 17 August 2015 - 07:31 PM

This thread is dangerously similar to our recent and hopefully extinct city plan in which people camp in parks that are not meant for camping.  Then they go through the courts to prevent eviction.  And they have lots of supporters who feel it is their right to fight for their 'civil rights' and the court's duty is to protect them from unfair bylaws and regulations.  Just sayin!


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#42 Baro

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Posted 17 August 2015 - 08:21 PM

Can you have a pet if you camp in the parks?


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#43 jklymak

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Posted 17 August 2015 - 08:24 PM

Couldn't the strata fine you and put a lien on your home if you don't pay the fines?

 

No, strata corps can't put a lien on a home for unpaid fines.  For unpaid assessments, but that is a much more formal matter.

 

As for the sense of entitlement, etc etc: Strata corporations can write whatever bylaws they like.  They can say they don't want anyone with a walker to live in their building (because they are too noisy, scuff the walls, whatever) and make a strata rule about it.  Doesn't mean it will stand up in a court of law if they try to evict someone who develops a need for a walker.   

 

We had a pretty over the top crazy owner who was disturbing the peace, causing damage etc etc.  Trust me, we looked into how we could get rid of this guy, and it is extremely hard to evict someone unless they don't pay their assessments.  It apparently has only happened a handful of times in BC.  I don't think getting unexpectedly pregnant in a 16+ building is going to get you evicted if for for some reason you are unable to move.  



#44 lanforod

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Posted 17 August 2015 - 10:40 PM

I asked my sister about her 19+ building. She had one couple have a baby and not move u till the baby was 2.5 yrs old. Strata kept after them to sell and move, though couldn't actually force them to.

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 06:44 AM

Unless you were awarded legal costs, it's doubtful you'd come out ahead financially by doing this. Also, while the matter dragged on through the courts your home life would likely become quite miserable. I am not sure it would be worth putting one's family through this just to fight a principle.

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#46 jonny

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 08:25 AM

I would never by in a strata with crazy rules and/or bylaws. That's probably a pretty good indicator there are some whackos on the strata council who will be peering through their blinds and seething at the manner you operate your vehicle or every time your wife/kid/dog/friend makes a sound.

 

The standard rules about not being loud or obnoxious should be enough.

 

And no, you definitely cannot put a lien on somebody's property for a rule or bylaw infraction. The strata council just has to vote on whether or not they want to fine you. I'm not even sure what the recourse is if your strata council fines you and you disagree.

 

We had a guy sell his unit before paying some fines and the only reason we got them paid was because lawyer didn't notify the buyer that there were outstanding fines. The lawyer ended up paying the fines.


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#47 jklymak

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Posted 18 August 2015 - 12:19 PM

I think that the strata corporation can refuse to transfer the property to the new owner if there are outstanding fines.  Powerful, but not as powerful as foreclosure and eviction.  Beyond the strata council, you can fight these fines using the tribunal that was started in 2012 or the courts:

 

http://www.rebgv.org...tion-bc-stratas



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Posted 14 May 2016 - 10:42 AM

Back in the mid 90s I lost 25% of my condo's value, because, although I had a no-pet policy, we discovered our tenant was running a cat-sitting business in my unit.  The hardwood reeked of cat urine and there was no way to get the horrible smell out.  Not only did I take a huge hit when selling that condo, but it took over a year to find a buyer.  We are in a house now and have a rental unit downstairs.  We will not rent to cat owners.  Their dander never really goes away and you have to declare forever to prospective tenants that there has once been a cat in the unit.  For those with cat alergies, you'll understand what I mean.  Our current tenant has a shepherd-cross and she's been very good. 



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Posted 14 May 2016 - 10:47 AM

We once rented a house to a gal that raised Vietnamese pigs in the basement with a concrete floor. I'll bet that the smell is still there to this day.



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Posted 14 May 2016 - 11:24 AM

Back in the mid 90s I lost 25% of my condo's value, because, although I had a no-pet policy, we discovered our tenant was running a cat-sitting business in my unit.  The hardwood reeked of cat urine and there was no way to get the horrible smell out. 

 

I'd suggest that this isn't necessarily linked to allowing pets, but rather someone to run a pet sitting business.  Most cat owners would probably be responsible enough to have their cat tinkle in the litterbox. 

 

Replacing the hardwood would likely have saved you money in the long-run.


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Posted 14 May 2016 - 11:34 AM

I'd suggest that this isn't necessarily linked to allowing pets, but rather someone to run a pet sitting business.  Most cat owners would probably be responsible enough to have their cat tinkle in the litterbox. 

 

Replacing the hardwood would likely have saved you money in the long-run.

Cats will tinkle where they please and males will spray.  There is no real control with cats.  Replacing hardwood is the most expensive flooring repair. 



#52 todd

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Posted 14 May 2016 - 12:40 PM

We once rented a house to a gal that raised Vietnamese pigs in the basement with a concrete floor. I'll bet that the smell is still there to this day.

Were you aware of that at the time?



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Posted 14 May 2016 - 12:51 PM

^ Half way through.



#54 todd

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Posted 14 May 2016 - 12:52 PM

^ Half way through.

....Not exactly the kind of thing you'd expect the average renter to have.



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Posted 14 May 2016 - 03:09 PM

This reminds me of a recent special annual general meeting I attended at one of my buildings.  It was an extremely heated meeting discussing the potential introduction of a short-term rental bylaw restriction (barely voted down).  People start talking about how AirBnB was affecting their personal hotel business, etc.....

 

One smart guy stood up and said, "listen, AirBnB, Uber, etc., are disruptive business but not for us a strata corporation to worry about the affects on other business.  That is up to the government to deal with."

 

Your cat situation isn't really a bylaw/restriction topic.  You by choice rented to someone who had a cat that damaged your unit and you had to sell in an incredibly difficult time to sell a condo (mid 1990s when the leaky condos became daily news).

 

The tenants in my basement suite have two cats but I planned ahead.  I paid $6 per foot for the flooring in my main part of the house, $1 for the flooring in the basement :)


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Posted 14 May 2016 - 06:45 PM

I was in White Rock earlier today helping some friends with a garage sale and they live in a gated retirement community where every house is identical, same beige vinyl siding and brown shingle roof colour. The strata does allow some personalization, though: your awnings can be white OR cream. Wild times, I tell ya.

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 12:07 AM

Was it Broadmead that had a covenant that you must build using cedar shakes or shingles for the roofing material, not duroid?

 

EDIT: This used to be the case but there are other options now.  http://www.broadmead...venant-summary/


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#58 LJ

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 07:32 PM

^ I lived in a subdivision where there was a covenant regarding roofing, but it only lasted for 10 years. Nobody had replaced their roof in that time.


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 07:51 AM

We are in the primary stages of looking for a condo/townhouse. There is such a variety of age restrictions. Found an acceptable place except the age restriction was that all residing there had to be 50+ (we are in our 60's and a 30 yr old son lives with us).  Then found another ok place that accepts residents 13+. There is some interesting logic regarding age and pets out there.

 

Not ready to buy yet, but I am really dreading the day we sell our house and have a time crunch in finding a place that accepts 2 cats and residents 30+. Here's hoping the stars align when the time comes!



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Posted 13 March 2017 - 07:54 AM

Was it Broadmead that had a covenant that you must build using cedar shakes or shingles for the roofing material, not duroid?

 

EDIT: This used to be the case but there are other options now.  http://www.broadmead...venant-summary/

 

It was.  And while not many people had to re-roof, it went along quite well.  We did a lot of steel roofs in there, looks like shake.  But alas, when it got to the point were dozens needed new roofs each year, first a few just ignored the rules, then they voted to loosen the restrictions and go for cheaper roofing materials.  Asphalt.


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