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#1041 Mike K.

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 03:48 PM

In addition to shoe's data above, BCT identified service hours were 930k in 2015/16, so adding another $4.3M into the pile we saw a service increase of 1.3% versus a funding increase of 21.5%. Brutal.


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Posted 12 December 2018 - 03:57 PM

In addition to shoe's data above, BCT identified service hours were 930k in 2015/16, so adding another $4.3M into the pile we saw a service increase of 1.3% versus a funding increase of 21.5%. Brutal.

 

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#1043 Mike K.

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 04:12 PM

"Service hours delivered in Victoria are based on payroll records." [link]

 

Ok, hold on. So service hours are not just the hours a driver spends picking up and dropping off passengers, they appear to be the entire time a driver spends behind the wheel, i.e. when dead-heading to and from the depot? Does that literally mean that an expansion of service hours might actually relate to no additional services for the public at all, but in fact hide a decrease in service while drivers spend more time dead-heading to and from the depot?


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#1044 LeoVictoria

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 06:25 PM

Sorry Leo, but cutting through your good news assessment above what we actually saw was a 1.0% rise in service hours (918k vs 927k) with a budget increase of 17.2% between 2010/11 and 2014/15. In other words, literally no improvement in service whatsoever.


Nice cherry picking there. You Selected a few flat years of service and applied an averaged budget increase without knowing what the increase actually was.

Hint: If you conclusion completely changes by picking different start and end dates then you're focused on the noise instead of the data.

#1045 LeoVictoria

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 06:26 PM

"Service hours delivered in Victoria are based on payroll records." [link]
 
Ok, hold on. So service hours are not just the hours a driver spends picking up and dropping off passengers, they appear to be the entire time a driver spends behind the wheel, i.e. when dead-heading to and from the depot? Does that literally mean that an expansion of service hours might actually relate to no additional services for the public at all, but in fact hide a decrease in service while drivers spend more time dead-heading to and from the depot?


I'm sure BC transit will be amazed at the discoveries that we are making in this thread. They probably have never thought about how to optimize the efficiency of their service.

#1046 Mike K.

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 07:21 PM

I wish we had a budget for 2004/2005 but I can’t find it. What I can find is a budget for 2010/11 and 2017/18. It only makes sense to average out the years in between if we don’t have each individual year.

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#1047 LJ

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 07:25 PM

  Wages are expected to outpace inflation so in a labour heavy industry that alone would drive some increase over time.   

 

Says who? Not the people that are paying the price I'm willing to bet. Union leaders certainly. Maybe some economists. Not me.


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#1048 UDeMan

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 11:02 PM

As someone that takes the bus daily, to downtown, I can tell you that ridership appears to be way up to me.

I would say it's because the cost to drive and park downtown has spiked over the past few years as all the parking lots have been removed for development.

 

I would prefer to drive, but the cost difference is huge.   

 

Bus pass $85 per month.

 

Parking downtown, if you can find a monthly spot is $200 plus, or $10 to $15 per day.

Cost of gas, back and forth, depends on what you have.

 

I have coworkers paying $400 to $500 a month just to get to work, parking and gas.



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Posted 10 January 2019 - 06:24 AM

B.C. is paying some of the most obscenely, disproportionately high gas prices in Canadian history .  National Post January 10, 2019 The gas price disparity between Alberta and B.C. is always pretty surprising, but in the last few weeks it has become utterly, stratospherically, disproportionately high.

Last Thursday, Edmontonians were paying 84.9 cents a litre, while drivers in the neighbouring capital city of Victoria were paying 137.9 cents. That’s a spread of 53 cents, and a Victoria price 63 per cent higher than Edmonton’s. According to Dan McTeague, a senior petroleum analyst at GasBuddy.com, it’s an “unprecedented” price disparity for two major Canadian cities.

If an enterprising Edmontonian filled up a 63,500-litre B-Train with retail-priced gasoline, they could bank gross earnings of more than $30,000 simply by driving it to the coast. Drive the 12 hours from Edmonton to Vancouver with a 378-litre slip tank in the back of your pickup truck, and the value of the gas inside will magically jump by $148.

Below, a few reasons as to why this is happening (and why it isn’t necessarily because B.C. refuses to build oil pipelines). 

https://nationalpost...e#comments-area



 



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