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#81 aastra

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Posted 26 November 2015 - 01:24 PM

Hmmm. A hotel tower on the corner and a casino in the Crystal Garden? That would put the usual suspects in an interesting spot (screaming bloody murder about the hotel tower and saying nothing at all against the casino).


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#82 jklymak

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Posted 26 November 2015 - 02:18 PM

There is already two tall hotels directly across the street, and two relatively tall condos next door.  I guess this is the Victoria planning credo: if there is one tall building, then its ok to build one right next door.


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#83 jonny

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Posted 26 November 2015 - 04:25 PM

I think casinos are kinda lame, but if a private developer wants to spend private money putting a casino downtown then that's something I could get behind provided the design was right. Casinos tend to be very ugly and extremely inward focused. Maybe they could put one in the basement of the Victoria bus depot redevelopment project.



#84 aastra

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Posted 26 November 2015 - 04:47 PM

I'm thinking VHF might be right that the Crystal Garden could be a decent space for it. So this must be the site that they have in mind? I suppose a heritage building could temper some of the inherent casino tackiness, too. I'm just not keen on it being right in the epicentre like that.

 

I'm assuming that the addition of the casino would not necessitate any conversion of the existing commercial units or the eviction of the businesses that are there now?


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Posted 26 November 2015 - 05:08 PM

Maybe some for office space?
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Posted 26 November 2015 - 05:54 PM

How about a floating Casino cruise boat?



#87 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 26 November 2015 - 05:59 PM

How about a floating Casino cruise boat?


Floating (free floating) casino is not legal by federal laws.
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Posted 26 November 2015 - 06:02 PM

Floating (free floating) casino is not legal by federal laws.

 

It's 2015 Trudeau Junior is in office, we can change that.


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Posted 26 November 2015 - 06:11 PM

Floating (free floating) casino is not legal by federal laws.

 

Thought BC Ferries was close to implementing some kind of gambling on their boats before they change their mind, were they going to try and change federal law? 



#90 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 26 November 2015 - 06:13 PM

^ they made the announcement then discovered the federal law.

http://thetyee.ca/Ne...-on-BC-Ferries/


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#91 sdwright.vic

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Posted 26 November 2015 - 06:38 PM

^ bad link, bad! 😆
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Posted 26 November 2015 - 06:39 PM

Maybe Capital 6 can be repurposed as a Casino?
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#93 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 26 November 2015 - 06:41 PM

^ bad link, bad!

 

http://thetyee.ca/Ne...-on-BC-Ferries/


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Posted 26 November 2015 - 11:43 PM

Maybe Capital 6 can be repurposed as a Casino?

 

Big boy johnny zee's.


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#95 Nparker

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Posted 27 November 2015 - 08:31 AM

 

Victoria council is open to the idea of a casino in the city...Council agreed Thursday to keep Victoria’s options open and indicate support. Three councillors — Ben Isitt, Jeremy Loveday and Pam Madoff — were opposed.

- See more at: http://www.timescolo...h.gZbKuqeY.dpuf

Surprise, surprise.



#96 Hotel Mike

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Posted 27 November 2015 - 10:07 AM

While I may have some unlikely bedfellows on this issue, I too am opposed to have a gambling hall in downtown Victoria. Other than generating revenue, there are no redeeming social factors about a casino. It's not like the old days where so much revenue went to community organizations. Now it's simply a government money grab from the poor.

 

Fun for a few, desperation for most. Who will be spending money there? Not the cruise ship passengers who have their own casinos on board. Not the family travellers. Nope. The local folk who have difficulty making ends meet and difficulty resisting the close, handy lure of a casino. If you want to gamble, go to Vegas. If you can't afford to, but must gamble, go to View Royal. We don't need it in Victoria.


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#97 nagel

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Posted 27 November 2015 - 10:12 AM

While I may have some unlikely bedfellows on this issue, I too am opposed to have a gambling hall in downtown Victoria. Other than generating revenue, there are no redeeming social factors about a casino. It's not like the old days where so much revenue went to community organizations. Now it's simply a government money grab from the poor.

 

Fun for a few, desperation for most. Who will be spending money there? Not the cruise ship passengers who have their own casinos on board. Not the family travellers. Nope. The local folk who have difficulty making ends meet and difficulty resisting the close, handy lure of a casino. If you want to gamble, go to Vegas. If you can't afford to, but must gamble, go to View Royal. We don't need it in Victoria.

Yup I feel the same way about casinos.



#98 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 27 November 2015 - 10:13 AM

Other than generating revenue, there are no redeeming social factors about a casino. ..

 

Fun for a few, desperation for most. Who will be spending money there? Not the cruise ship passengers who have their own casinos on board. Not the family travellers. Nope. The local folk who have difficulty making ends meet and difficulty resisting the close, handy lure of a casino. If you want to gamble, go to Vegas. If you can't afford to, but must gamble, go to View Royal. We don't need it in Victoria.

 

What about people who ENJOY casinos, the 95%* that just go for fun, and "play within it".  And weekenders from Seattle that come with no kids.  They make up an awful lot of our tourism industry.

 

I've said before, I rarely go, but the times I've been, most people seem to be having a good time, and what's wrong with that?

 

*usual


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Posted 27 November 2015 - 10:17 AM

https://www.biv.com/...ino-city-staff/

 

 

Victoria needs a new casino: city staff

Victoria city staff are recommending that council tell the British Columbia Lottery Corp. the city is open

 


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#100 aastra

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Posted 27 November 2015 - 10:38 AM

I give Madoff a point for being opposed. I was expecting the opposite.

 

 

Isitt said there are enough options and policy tools available for the city to have “a diversified and growing revenue stream” without casino revenues.

 

I'd be interested in knowing what these might be, since he doesn't seem to be a fan of the most fundamental kind of residential development, or of selling off useless parcels of city-owned land.

 

 

(Young) said a casino doesn’t necessarily have to be an isolated building surrounded by a sea of cars.

“It’s clear that not all casinos have to be like that,” Young said.

 

Again with the parking thing that I was complaining about earlier.



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