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[aastra]

 

...depending on the parking situation they choose i think the new pool does mean some loss of green space

 

The existing pool represents a massive loss of green space in the heart of Victoria. There were no buildings in Central Park when the existing pool was built. If Victorians today don't recognize that decision as a catastrophic mistake, a crime against the environment and against the city's fundamental livability, etc. then exactly what are we so worried about when we fret about alterations to green space today? This is just more of that double-mindedness re: political rhetoric being much more important than hard realities. We care... but only within imposed intellectual/emotional confines. We both care and don't care at the same time.

 

And meanwhile, there are surface parking lots aplenty all over town... and even a fair number of empty lots.

[grantpalin]

The original plan seemed solid. Yes, there's a temporary loss of green space, but the new green space at the end could be worth it if laid out and designed smartly. Moving to the RAP lot would compromise the pool features, and take away the parking lot for the RAP. Why complicate things? Stick to the original plan.

[aastra]

I agree, and I also think it would be super cool and innovative (for a city Victoria's size) to build a parking structure either on the RAP parking lot or on the arena block that has green space on the entire top level.

[spanky123]

The original plan seemed solid. Yes, there's a temporary loss of green space, but the new green space at the end could be worth it if laid out and designed smartly. Moving to the RAP lot would compromise the pool features, and take away the parking lot for the RAP. Why complicate things? Stick to the original plan.

 

A criticism of the original plan was that in order for the new pool design to fit in the park, a row of maple trees would have to be cut down.

[Nparker]

So plant new trees when the pool is finished. Problem solved.

[Tom Braybrook]

 We both care and don't care at the same time.

 

 

...schrodinger's pool?...

[Bernard]

So we are closing on four years to get to this point of nothing having been decided yet.  The CoV first started considering options for the future of the Crystal pool close to 20 years ago.   It has been close to 7 years since the CoV has been aware of the risk of failure for the key systems.

 

Why do projects from the CoV take so insanely long to happen?   

[Nparker]

...Why do projects from the CoV take so insanely long to happen?   

[Mike K.]

This thread is 13-years-old.

[Bernard]

This thread is 13-years-old.

Yes, sorry, I meant to add that fact as well, but a work call got in the way.    

[Jacques Cadé]

The staff report on the pool location has been posted for the Feb 6 COTW meeting: https://pub-victoria...cumentId=49757


 

The report doesn't recommend a specific site. It tips in favour of the SW corner of Central Park, mentioning that the site "received the highest degree of analysis of any prospective location and was the site identified consistently through the initial two-year period of public engagement and technical analysis." But it also says the parking lot at 940 Caledonia is "sufficient to accommodate the program footprint, although complications may arise depending on the approach to accommodating the existing parking demand as well as the requirements for the facility patrons."


 

Most intriguing, the report also says “In the time since the direction given to staff on January 9, a new opportunity has been presented, which Council will be considering prior to considering this report.”

A closed Council meeting is scheduled before the COTW, presumably to discuss this “new opportunity.”

 

Edited by Jacques Cadé, 31 January 2020 - 03:36 PM.

[Victoria Watcher]

new location?  gotta be sd61 pushing for vic high.  or sj willis.  like they did for central.  both outside of north park though.  one of the two fields george jay uses (one a cov park one on their own property).

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 31 January 2020 - 03:51 PM.

[Nparker]

...Most intriguing, the report also says “In the time since the direction given to staff on January 9, a new opportunity has been presented, which Council will be considering prior to considering this report.”...

new location?  gotta be sd61 pushing for vic high.  or sj willis.  like they did for central.  both outside of north park though...

What delicious irony if the NPNA's demands sent the facility to another neighbourhood altogether! 

[Victoria Watcher]

how about the canadian linen site?  dark horse!

[Jacques Cadé]

Or maybe the CRD is proposing a deal for the former Blanshard Elementary: https://www.timescol...site-1.23836038

[Victoria Watcher]

how about the canadian linen site?  dark horse!

 

[Nparker]

how about the canadian linen site? ...

Even smaller footprint than RAP.

[Victoria Watcher]

take out the cat clinic and hollis wealth not that shy. close that part of vancouver to all but bikes.

 

your central park red outline is not accurate.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 31 January 2020 - 04:14 PM.

[Nparker]

take out the cat clinic and hollis wealth not that shy...

Perhaps, but you said the Canadian Linen site and not all the properties east of it.

[Victoria Watcher]

i'm only one sis-gendered person.