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#121 VIResident

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Posted 08 May 2021 - 08:48 AM

Newspapers used to report on every single robbery, murder, traffic ticket, high school swim meet, council meeting and bridal shower. New media outlets get to pick and choose the topics they want to delve in to. This is good for things like the recent expose on the takeover of the Sooke Harbour House hotel.

 

But there are stories to be told beyond long-form scandals. Just plain old reportage--what happened at City Hall last night. The daily mundane stuff. 

 

It's the mundane, the ho-hum, the regular mechanisms of City Hall, town goings on, and news about the rest of Canada etc. this anchors me and informs my forward (backward) movement in all bits of my life.  The right and left of media of record, I try to read both, for example Globe and Mail AND National Post.  The long-form, which in my opinion was somewhat missing, is enjoyable and has a time and place in my life and I don't hold it to the same standard that I hold media of record.  How about you?


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#122 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 08 May 2021 - 08:52 AM

ok they are subscriber or government funded then.

as we know older consumers are less desirable to advertisers as they are harder to woo to new brands or products.

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#123 Mike K.

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Posted 08 May 2021 - 09:04 AM

And younger consumers want to know when the next iPhone is coming out, not whether political paradigms are intertwined with corporate agendas in a municipality they drive through on their way to a camping spot. That's the conundrum media faces, in that young readers are busy with their personal lives, and older readers (with money) are looking to understand the complexity of issues that matter to them, not an editor and how she or he wants to slant them.


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#124 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 08 May 2021 - 09:12 AM

And younger consumers want to know when the next iPhone is coming out, not whether political paradigms are intertwined with corporate agendas in a municipality they drive through on their way to a camping spot. That's the conundrum media faces, in that young readers are busy with their personal lives, and older readers (with money) are looking to understand the complexity of issues that matter to them, not an editor and how she or he wants to slant them.

 

it's tough for sure.  



#125 spanky123

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 02:29 PM

The Capital just sent an email to its subscribers asking them to convert to a subscription model. $9.99 a month or $99 a year. $500 a year if you want the full pull.

 

Will be interesting to see how effective that approach is. The Capital has original work but they also link to other stories. If I was the TC I wouldn't be too happy with someone else monetizing my work.


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#126 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 02:34 PM

$9.99 for less than ~1 article per day?   that's hard to say.

 

i think the TC only charges $9.99/mo. for the digital edition.  even though they also give that away to everyone for free online.


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#127 Rob Randall

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 02:36 PM

^FOCUS has a lot of subscribers and donors, even though it's a free rag. Sort of like public television, if people take a liking to it they will nurture it.



#128 rmpeers

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 06:06 PM

$9.99 for less than ~1 article per day? that's hard to say.

i think the TC only charges $9.99/mo. for the digital edition. even though they also give that away to everyone for free online.


And the TC is at least somewhat objective, if superficial, journalism.

#129 Mike K.

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 06:47 PM

Spanky, what does $500/year entail?


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#130 spanky123

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 07:20 PM

^

 

Annual impact report

Member tote bag

Special mention on their website



#131 Mike K.

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 07:28 PM

Ok, gotcha.


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#132 spanky123

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 07:30 PM

Ok, gotcha.

 

VV top tier has to be worth $5,000 then!


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#133 Mike K.

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 07:33 PM

That's the buy-in. Then there's the monthly fee!


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#134 todd

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Posted 10 June 2021 - 07:41 PM

$9.99 for less than ~1 article per day? that's hard to say.

i think the TC only charges $9.99/mo. for the digital edition. even though they also give that away to everyone for free online.

And the TC e/print edition sometimes has exclusive photos and sometimes they tweak the headlines to be more honest for the e/print edition audience.

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#135 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 08 June 2022 - 12:34 PM

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https://abacusdata.c...tion-in-canada/

 

 

52% THINK OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTS OF EVENTS CAN’T BE TRUSTED

 

More than half of those interviewed found themselves agreeing with the statement “official government accounts of events can’t be trusted”

 

As with trust in news organizations, those with no post-secondary education, Alberta residents and those on the right showed markedly higher levels of mistrust in government.

 

Majorities of People’s Party, Conservative and Green Party voters indicate mistrust.  Those on the left and Liberal voters show higher levels of trust.


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#136 Nparker

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Posted 08 June 2022 - 12:38 PM

Green Party voters are considered right of centre?  :confused:



#137 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 19 July 2022 - 01:19 PM

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https://youtu.be/p1agAgF46NQ


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#138 dasmo

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Posted 19 July 2022 - 02:17 PM

So how do we reform these institutions that have degraded to such abysmal levels?   



#139 Nparker

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Posted 19 July 2022 - 02:35 PM

Cutting off all public funding might help. Perhaps then the media might do more than regurgitate government press releases.


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#140 dasmo

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Posted 19 July 2022 - 02:46 PM

I have been involved with marketing and know that this is the way it is. We would write press releases to sound like stories. Then the magazines would tweak them a bit and publish them as stories. This was at least honest information for cool products that work and do no harm.... 


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