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#641 todd

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Posted 24 November 2021 - 09:13 PM

Don’t think it’s been removed yet


“Barbados will soon remove Queen Elizabeth as its head”: https://www.national...-british-empire

#642 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 10 February 2022 - 03:23 PM

No charges for those who toppled Queen Victoria statue on Canada Day

 

Ex-Manitoba premier Brian Pallister called the vandalism 'a major setback for those who are working toward real reconciliation'

 

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Manitoba Justice said in a statement that following an investigation, no charges will be laid in relation to the toppling of statues or the organization of the protests at the legislative grounds held on Canada Day last year.

 

 

 

According to the statement, there have been other charges laid for offences to public safety on July 1, 2021. A 51-year-old man was arrested and later released for damaging a private vehicle on the Legislature grounds after the event. He faced charges of mischief and assaulting a police officer.

 

“The ability to peacefully protest or demonstrate is important in a free and democratic society,” Manitoba Justice Minister Kelvin Goertzen said in a statement provided to the Winnipeg Sun.

 

“It is in many ways at the heart of a democracy. The exercise of that democratic expression however comes with its own expectations by society, including respecting the rights and safety of others. Where there is either violence or property destruction in a protest or demonstration, those are rightfully investigated by the appropriate law enforcement. They then exercise their discretion based on evidence, whether legal action can or should be taken by way of laying a charge.”


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#643 Nparker

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Posted 10 February 2022 - 03:30 PM

No charges for those who toppled Queen Victoria statue on Canada Day...

There is no justice in Canada anymore.


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Posted 14 February 2022 - 12:59 PM

While Victoria Mayor Lisa Helps had previously suggested renaming the Fairfield neighbourhood road to “Truth Street,” a report from city staff is recommending it be called Su’it Street, reflecting the Lekwungen word for “truth.”

Last year, concerned citizens delivered a petition to council urging the name change because of the racist legacy of Joseph Trutch — a prominent politician once responsible for dramatically reducing Indigenous reserves in B.C. in the mid-1800s. He was also well-known for his racist views towards Indigenous people.


https://www.cheknews...-street-953772/

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#645 spanky123

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Posted 14 February 2022 - 01:24 PM

The report says there are no direct costs associated with Trutch Street residents changing their address with government agencies, and any financial impacts could be covered within the existing budget.

 

What about the cost of not being able to get deliveries because the name of the street doesn't match any language that shipping companies use to validate shipping addresses!


Edited by spanky123, 14 February 2022 - 01:24 PM.


#646 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 14 February 2022 - 01:29 PM

Are you sure? Can you have Parsons’s Road etc,?

#647 m3m

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Posted 14 February 2022 - 02:16 PM

The report says there are no direct costs associated with Trutch Street residents changing their address with government agencies, and any financial impacts could be covered within the existing budget.

 

What about the cost of not being able to get deliveries because the name of the street doesn't match any language that shipping companies use to validate shipping addresses!

 

Yes, there's no possible way that DHL and UPS can figure out "Su'it Street". 



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Posted 14 February 2022 - 02:33 PM

Yes, there's no possible way that DHL and UPS can figure out "Su'it Street". 

 

According to CHEK it will be səʔit.

 

Since 2 of those letters don't exist in our alphabet tell me how you enter them.

 

The written language was only created a few years ago, don't know why they had to come up with that don't exist in English or French. 


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#649 m3m

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Posted 14 February 2022 - 03:07 PM

CHEK actually reports:  report from city staff is recommending it be called Su’it Street. 

 

So does the actual report linked in the article.  

 

you're not gonna be "entering" those letters anywhere. 



#650 spanky123

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Posted 14 February 2022 - 03:26 PM

CHEK actually reports:  report from city staff is recommending it be called Su’it Street. 

 

So does the actual report linked in the article.  

 

you're not gonna be "entering" those letters anywhere. 

 

So that name was recommended by people who don't live on the street. What do the people who are impacted recommend?


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#651 Nparker

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Posted 14 February 2022 - 03:26 PM

Just more virtue signaling at the taxpayer's expense.


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#652 m3m

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Posted 14 February 2022 - 03:35 PM

So that name was recommended by people who don't live on the street. What do the people who are impacted recommend?

 

From the report itself:  

 

"This name change also aligns with most of the written feedback received from the residents of Trutch Street that indicated support for a name that is endorsed by the local First Nations."



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Posted 14 February 2022 - 04:42 PM

The statue of John Deighton, more commonly known as Gassy Jack, was toppled Monday afternoon during the annual Downtown Eastside Women’s Memorial March.

 

Video shared online shows ropes being placed around the statue and then it falling while people crowded around to cheer.

 

The statue stands at the edge of Gastown, the neighbourhood in Vancouver named after him.

 

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Critics have said Gassy Jack is a symbol of oppression against Indigenous people, noting he was 40 years old when he married a 12-year-old girl from the Squamish First Nation.


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#654 Nparker

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Posted 14 February 2022 - 04:46 PM

Disgusting.



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Posted 14 February 2022 - 06:07 PM

^ Before you get too upset Nparker we can do a little digging. According to the census she was a least 15-16 when she got married which is completely in line with the times. She told others she was older and the only report of her being 12 came from a single source who said she was difficult to converse with. Good enough to trash something one.

 

Deighton was first married to a Squamish woman, whose name is currently unknown. Before her death around 1870, her niece, Quahail-ya, came to care for her. After her death, Deighton married Quahail-ya who was also known by the name Madeline Deighton.[8][9] According to the 1921 Canadian Census she was born in 1855 or 1856 but other sources suggest other dates. In 1940, she told Vancouver archivist Major J.S. Matthews that she was "about 12" when she married Deighton in 1870. Matthews reported that "it was difficult to converse."[10] In 1946, after a portrait of her by Vancouver artist Mildred Valley Thornton was featured in the Vancouver Sun, she was described in an article as being "well over 90 years old."[11] Newspaper stories on her death in 1948 noted she was "reputed to be over 100 years of age"[12] and that she "claimed to be between 102 and 110 years of age



#656 Nparker

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Posted 14 February 2022 - 06:12 PM

^ Before you get too upset Nparker we can do a little digging. According to the census she was a least 15-16 when she got married which is completely in line with the times. She told others she was older and the only report of her being 12 came from a single source who said she was difficult to converse with. Good enough to trash something one...

I am surprised you think I was disgusted by the alleged age at which the marriage took place and not by another attack on public property, for which there likely will no repercussions. This is not how reconciliation will be achieved.



#657 m3m

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Posted 14 February 2022 - 06:47 PM

Sorry, you’re more disgusted by the destruction of some fibreglass than by child marriage?

Dude.
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Posted 14 February 2022 - 07:34 PM

^ How old do you think FN were when they got married at that time?


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Posted 14 February 2022 - 07:42 PM

Sorry, you’re more disgusted by the destruction of some fibreglass than by child marriage?

Dude.

 

Now show me where the outrage is for Muslim or Indian child brides thats ongoing today

 

Dude...


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#660 m3m

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Posted 14 February 2022 - 08:11 PM

Now show me where the outrage is for Muslim or Indian child brides thats ongoing today

Dude...


Here ya go:

I’m outraged!!!!!!!
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