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#121 dasmo

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Posted 11 February 2018 - 09:06 PM

But being against capitalism means you have to be for the government running everything. Capitalism is much MUCH preferable over that! Doesn’t mean government can’t better regulate capitalism for the greater good but no capitalism, no thanks!

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#122 Mike K.

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 05:07 AM

We’ve tried the anti-capitalism thing a few times. It doesn’t work out all that well for the average working Joe.

Those societies create extreme levels of dependence on substances, criminality is more likely (albeit punishments are much harsher) and government services are far below the level of quality and professionalism we experience in Canada and the US. The future for the average worker is also bleak and largely predetermined based on connections, not ability or perseverance.

Our system may not be perfect but it’s a world of (positive) difference when compared to alternatives. The folks who tell you otherwise a) have never experienced socialism as a resident and b) if they did, and still support it, they were likely to have been on the “take” or would willingly be on the take if the opportunity presented itself (politics being a great entryway to gaining status and opportunity in such a society, and that's not lost on politicians in Canada with a heavy left-wing bias, believe me).

Our future IMO, should be more focused on fostering opportunity. The opportunity for education and upwards mobility creates that good old fashioned sense of satisfaction from the sheer pursuit of happiness. Things like funding options to help people of all ages educate themselves (key word being funding options, not freebies) and resources to help guide them. That’s the butter. But this talk of free education, free money, high wages for the sake of high wages, that sort of stuff, it all leads down a path of complacency, a lack of motivation and all around dissatisfaction with one’s life and situation (unless you brain drain your way to employment elsewhere after siphoning a platinum education courtesy of your neighbour).

 

In our capitalist choose-your-own-adventure style of society why would someone go to university to get a (free or not so free) sociology degree if he he or she suspects they’ll end up working as a barista and trying to convince everyone that they deserve a “living wage?” Wouldn’t it have been far more practical to work towards a different degree or to go down a different educational path? But that aside, I’d prefer for that individual to have an easier time choosing that different path rather than feeling stuck. That’s where the sort of funding options and access to educational services/supports comes into play, where that unhappy university graduate with a lame duck degree can have the resources to pursue a path with a better financial outcome.

Anyways, enough of me ranting for the day (and it’s only 5AM!).


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#123 FirstTimeHomeCrier

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 09:08 AM

But being against capitalism means you have to be for the government running everything. Capitalism is much MUCH preferable over that! Doesn’t mean government can’t better regulate capitalism for the greater good but no capitalism, no thanks!

 

That's false. There's such a thing as anarcho-communism, which advocates the abolition of state.



#124 dasmo

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 09:38 AM

That's false. There's such a thing as anarcho-communism, which advocates the abolition of state.

That kinda thing can work in isolation yet connection to the real world. Like a remote eco village or something. Usually those will still have a dictator. At a country scale, not going to work at all....
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#125 LJ

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:01 PM


 

 


The Mechanic and The Cardiologist



A Lexus mechanic was removing a cylinder head from the motor

of a LS460 when he spotted a well known cardiologist in his shop.



The cardiologist was there waiting for the service manager to come

and take a look at his car when the mechanic shouted across the

garage, "Hey Doc, want to take a look at this?"



The cardiologist, a bit surprised, walked over to where the mechanic was
working.



The mechanic straightened up, wiped his hands on a rag and asked,

"So Doc, look at this engine. I opened its heart, took the valves out,

repaired or replaced anything damaged, and then put everything back in,

and when I finished, it worked just like new.



So how is it that I make $48,000 a year and you make $1.7M,

when you and I are doing basically the same work?"





The cardiologist paused, leaned over,

and then whispered to the mechanic.......





"Try doing it with the engine running.”

 

 


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#126 RFS

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Posted 17 February 2018 - 08:47 PM

Basically this

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#127 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 19 April 2018 - 08:33 AM

BC's 'alternate' minimum wages rising

The province has announced the minimum wage for liquor servers will gradually increase until it matches the general minimum wage in 2021.


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#128 Jackerbie

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Posted 19 April 2018 - 10:02 AM

BC's 'alternate' minimum wages rising

The province has announced the minimum wage for liquor servers will gradually increase until it matches the general minimum wage in 2021.

 

So... is tipping still going to be a thing in 2021?



#129 Nparker

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Posted 19 April 2018 - 10:16 AM

... is tipping still going to be a thing in 2021?

I can say with little fear of being proved wrong that tipping will still exist 3 years from now.



#130 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 19 April 2018 - 10:27 AM

So... is tipping still going to be a thing in 2021?

 

Oh ya, but I might respond to this 13% mandated wage hike with a 13% reduction in staff hours.


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#131 Matt R.

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Posted 19 April 2018 - 11:22 AM

Hopefully it also comes with giving licensees access to wholesale liquor pricing to help offset the increased labour costs, but I’m not holding my breath.

What this means is increased prices and fewer staff hours and more of the cafeteria dining/counter service model that is becoming more popular as labour costs go up.

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#132 Jackerbie

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Posted 19 April 2018 - 01:13 PM

BC's 'alternate' minimum wages rising

The province has announced the minimum wage for liquor servers will gradually increase until it matches the general minimum wage in 2021.

 

I just saw that minimum wages will increase for farm workers in January 2019. Richmond farmers have said that the cost will be passed on to consumers. http://www.richmond-...ices-1.23273988



#133 rjag

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Posted 19 April 2018 - 01:50 PM

I just saw that minimum wages will increase for farm workers in January 2019. Richmond farmers have said that the cost will be passed on to consumers. http://www.richmond-...ices-1.23273988

 

Of course it will. Any cost of business is built into the price of the good or service, just wait until the new health payroll tax is implemented, that will add to consumers costs as well. And now that the carbon tax isn't revenue neutral that cost will be passed over to consumers....I think the GreeNDP philosophy here is to hide the costs to the voter and make them believe that they are getting free health.

 

That being said, I don't have a problem with a higher min wage but have a problem with the ripple effect that is not disclosed



#134 VicHockeyFan

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Posted 19 April 2018 - 01:52 PM

All costs are passed on to consumers. That’s economics.
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#135 Matt R.

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Posted 19 April 2018 - 03:00 PM

Yes, we will see a bump in menu prices because of this for sure. I’d held off printing my spring drink menu until this was announced. Now we know.

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#136 LJ

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Posted 19 April 2018 - 08:42 PM

I stopped buying drinks in restaurants a couple of years ago. Horrible prices and low thresholds for roadside suspensions have saved me a lot of money.


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