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Uses: rental, commercial
Address: 1518 Cook Street
Municipality: Victoria
Region: Downtown Victoria
Storeys: 6
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[North Park] Wellburn's Market redevelopment | 6-storeys | Proposed


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#21 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 04:23 PM

District Properties will be meeting with the Wellburn’s owner soon to share their vision for the site.
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Posted 11 July 2018 - 04:32 PM

I secretly hope Wellburns suffers a quick and painful demise for there part in trying to impede the Bluesky building.

Yeah, I know. Heartless.
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#23 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 05:28 PM

Was Vic Lum himself involved in the opposition?

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 06:15 PM

From my understanding and sources, yes.

Him and the lady that owns the coffee shop on Mason, plus the farm were the head henchmen.
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#25 Nparker

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 06:49 PM

Was Vic Lum himself involved in the opposition?

A petition to stop the Bluesky proposal was available at Wellburn's for customers to sign.



#26 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 10:18 AM

District Properties will be meeting with the Wellburn’s owner soon to share their vision for the site.


Here is District’s submission to NPNA. http://npna.ca/wp-co...-mtg-notice.png The plan is to restore the Wellburn’s building and construct a 6-storey rental apartment on the parking lot. The new building will be “stepped back” on higher storeys and will feature more commercial space on the first two floors. The community meeting will take place August 1. Hopefully we will see renderings soon!

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#27 Nparker

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 10:34 AM

So it will more-or-less be a bookend to the Bluesky project at the other end of the 1000 block of Pandora - with some heritage preservation for good measure. I look forward to the furore by the local anti-gentrification crowd as they fight to preserve a pothole-filled parking lot.


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Posted 20 July 2018 - 11:08 AM

Thank you for the heads-up, Kapten!

 

It looks like District will build 84 rental units as part of the proposal along with restoration of the Caption Building's facade, but not heritage restoration of the actual building. That's a common practice nowadays and can result in a far more practical structure for future residents and commercial tenants.

 

Wellburn's Market redev to retain heritage facade, deliver over 80 rentals to North Park

https://victoria.cit...-to-north-park/


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#29 RFS

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 11:12 AM

It cool they they are restoring it, but i think it would look better as a podium for the 6 storey building, rather than seperate
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#30 Mike K.

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 11:15 AM

It appears it will be the podium. The building will be razed and the facade restored.
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#31 Nparker

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 11:15 AM

...i think it would look better as a podium for the 6 storey building...

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#32 tjv

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 12:35 PM

I secretly hope Wellburns suffers a quick and painful demise for there part in trying to impede the Bluesky building.

Yeah, I know. Heartless.

It won't be long before Wellburns dies...I give it 6 months after Save on Foods opens less than a block away for then to shut their doors



#33 sdwright.vic

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 01:21 PM

Well now that the heritage portion will be gutted and just the facade saved.... nail meet coffin.
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#34 tjv

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 02:19 PM

District Properties will be meeting with the Wellburn’s owner soon to share their vision for the site.

Ok, I am completely confused by this.  Does District own this site or does Wellburn's?  No one needs permission from the previous building owner.  I certainly don't need permission with my commercial tenants as to what I do with my building.

 

Can someone also give me a little history of the NPNA.  Are they elected by official ballot during a municipal election?  Is there a City bylaw recognizing them with any authority?  Or are they they a group of citizens who meet for coffee at the McDonalds?



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Posted 20 July 2018 - 02:26 PM

...Can someone also give me a little history of the NPNA.  Are they elected by official ballot during a municipal election?  Is there a City bylaw recognizing them with any authority?  Or are they they a group of citizens who meet for coffee at the McDonalds?

I am not sure exactly how they came to be, (certainly not by any sort of general ballot) but they are well versed in NIMBY-ism and shouting down those whose opinions do not jive with their own. Their members were exceptionally vocal in opposition to the St. Andrew's/Bluesky proposal.



#36 Mike K.

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 02:37 PM

It’s a neighbourhood association like all other neighbourhood associations.

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#37 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 03:48 PM

Ok, I am completely confused by this. Does District own this site or does Wellburn's? No one needs permission from the previous building owner. I certainly don't need permission with my commercial tenants as to what I do with my building.

Can someone also give me a little history of the NPNA. Are they elected by official ballot during a municipal election? Is there a City bylaw recognizing them with any authority? Or are they they a group of citizens who meet for coffee at the McDonalds?

District owns the site / property. There are a number of possible good reasons for the new landlord (District) to meet with their primary tenant: discussion of development timelines, options for including Wellburn’s in the property long term, gathering the tenant’s support before meeting with the neighbourhood etc.

Every neighbourhood association in the city has a land use committee. Developers must meet with this group (aka “CALUC”- community association land use committee) before submitting a request for a rezoning or development permit. City staff will also work with the CALUC and the developer before preparing reports for the committee of the whole (this council committee determines whether or not a development proposal goes forward to a public hearing); for example, if there are concerns from the CALUC, planning staff may ask a developer to submit alternate plans and re-review these with the CALUC...

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#38 Kapten Kapsell

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 03:53 PM

The architect is MG Architecture of Vancouver, the same firm that District is partnering with for the Scott building project at Douglas and Hillside.

#39 sdwright.vic

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 04:00 PM

^Well that a great proposal...😎
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#40 tjv

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 05:02 PM

It’s a neighbourhood association like all other neighbourhood associations.

Right!  so a bunch of nobodies basically and from what NParker said not eveng elected by the residents of the neighbourhood.  I say they should be ignored.  It would be the same as a everyone here starting the VV Neighbourhood Association.   6 storey for this site REJECTED, can I get a seconder?

 

Yes I'm kinda half serious, half joking.  If the NPNA came out of nowhere unelected then the VVNA should be able to also to put recommendations forward

 

District owns the site / property. There are a number of possible good reasons for the new landlord (District) to meet with their primary tenant: discussion of development timelines, options for including Wellburn’s in the property long term, gathering the tenant’s support before meeting with the neighbourhood etc.

There are no legal requirements for an owner of the property to meet with a tenant about plans for after their lease expires.  Say the lease expires July 31, 2019 then the demo crew can arrive August 1st



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