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[dasmo]

Are you suggesting masking and distancing reduce the transmission of viruses?

No. Check the past ten years of the science on that…. Or is only the new science allowed.

[Spy Black]

Are you suggesting masking and distancing reduce the transmission of viruses?

You can never expect these anti-vaxers to do anything but speak out of both sides of their mouths.

It's their mantra.

 

Their voices were once loud and endless in this thread ... now reduced to embarrassing gaffs like this one, and repeating (somebody else's) same failed talking points over, and over, and over again.

[dasmo]

Masking wasn’t prevalent here in until late 2020 and yet zero flu cases were reported.

[dasmo]

You can never expect these anti-vaxers to do anything but speak out of both sides of their mouths.
It's their mantra.

Their voices were once loud and endless in this thread ... now reduced to embarrassing gaffs like this one, and repeating (somebody else's) same failed talking points over, and over, and over again.

Just want to capture this in all its ugliness

[sebberry]

Masking wasn’t prevalent here in until late 2020 and yet zero flu cases were reported.

 

And what happened before the masking?

[Spy Black]

He won't answer because to do so would expose yet another embarrassing gaff, and highlight the double talk and straight up B.S.

So I'll give it a shot.

 

March 2020:

• Shelter in Place Order
• All public service facilities close, restaurants, bars, playgrounds, etc
• Cancellation of all events involving groups
• Social distancing
• Obsessive hand washing
• And much, much more ... eventually culminating in the mask order in late 2020.

 

That's why there was no flu, because all of the above works to reduce virus transmission ... just as the Emergency Health Order said it would.

[Victoria Watcher]

As of today, Quebecers will no longer have to wear a mask in most indoor spaces across the province.

The province's mandatory mask mandate has been in place since July 2020, for a total of 21 consecutive months, but officially ends on Saturday, making Quebec the last province to drop its mandate.

https://www.cbc.ca/n...ndate-1.6450650



Quebec kept the mask mandate in place longer than anyone else. Didn’t help.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 14 May 2022 - 06:02 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

As of today, Quebecers will no longer have to wear a mask in most indoor spaces across the province.

The province's mandatory mask mandate has been in place since July 2020, for a total of 21 consecutive months, but officially ends on Saturday, making Quebec the last province to drop its mandate.

https://www.cbc.ca/n...ndate-1.6450650



Quebec kept the mask mandate in place longer than anyone else. Didn’t help.

They are still middle of the pack for Canada and higher than most of the US in current cases.

[max.bravo]

Really highlights their hypocrisy with their war on religious hijabs continuing while also requiring state mandated religious covid masks. Theyre about the same level of threatening to democracy / effective at saving lives.

[dasmo]

Joe Rogan rips 'creepy dictator' Justin Trudeau over trucker protest
'I thought he was a handsome fella ... before he leaned into the woke stuff,' the podcaster said

 

https://torontosun.c...trucker-protest

[Victoria Watcher]

Adverse vaccine effects in the UK:

 

 

 

 

 

As of 4 May 2022, for the UK, 170,337 Yellow Cards have been reported for the COVID-19 Pfizer/BioNTech Vaccine, 245,089 have been reported for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 38,197 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 1,672 have been reported where the brand of the vaccine was not specified.

 

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The MHRA has received 763 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the COVID-19 Pfizer/BioNTech Vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 1,272 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 53 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 44 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. 

 

https://www.gov.uk/g...-card-reporting

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 15 May 2022 - 05:00 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

https://www.worldome...rus/country/us/

 

 

 

Average deaths per day in USA (all causes):   6,561

Average deaths per day in USA - car crashes:   117

 

https://www.cdc.gov/.../table14_99.pdf

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 16 May 2022 - 07:02 AM.

[Ismo07]

Adverse vaccine effects in the UK:

 

 

 

 

 

As of 4 May 2022, for the UK, 170,337 Yellow Cards have been reported for the COVID-19 Pfizer/BioNTech Vaccine, 245,089 have been reported for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 38,197 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 1,672 have been reported where the brand of the vaccine was not specified.

 

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The MHRA has received 763 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the COVID-19 Pfizer/BioNTech Vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 1,272 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 53 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 44 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. 

 

https://www.gov.uk/g...-card-reporting

 

140M shots...

[Ismo07]

 

 

Average deaths per day in USA (all causes):   6,561

Average deaths per day in USA - car crashes:   117

 

 

Love the inferences to other deaths when related to Covid...  Like more people die for other reasons so we shouldn't care....  For all the driving in the US wouldn't you think vehicular deaths should be more than a virus that can be defended easily? Gun deaths are over 1,700 per day (in 20210 and the US isn't too concerned about that)...

Edited by Ismo07, 16 May 2022 - 08:28 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

Obviously I did not say I don’t care.

I put the other totals to show that Covid should no longer be looked upon as a major issue.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 16 May 2022 - 08:29 AM.

[sebberry]

Quebec kept the mask mandate in place longer than anyone else. Didn’t help.

 

You're missing the point: It's a tool in the toolbox.  One tool alone doesn't fix the problem.

[sebberry]

Adverse vaccine effects in the UK:

 

 

 

 

 

As of 4 May 2022, for the UK, 170,337 Yellow Cards have been reported for the COVID-19 Pfizer/BioNTech Vaccine, 245,089 have been reported for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 38,197 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 1,672 have been reported where the brand of the vaccine was not specified.

 

____________________

 

 

The MHRA has received 763 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the COVID-19 Pfizer/BioNTech Vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 1,272 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 53 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 44 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. 

 

https://www.gov.uk/g...-card-reporting

 

 

What is a Yellow Card?

The Yellow Card scheme is a mechanism by which anybody can voluntarily report any suspected adverse reactions or side effects to the vaccine. It is very important to note that a Yellow Card report does not necessarily mean the vaccine caused that reaction or event. We ask for any suspicions to be reported, even if the reporter isn’t sure if it was caused by the vaccine. Reports to the scheme are known as suspected adverse drug reactions (ADRs).

[dasmo]

You're missing the point: It's a tool in the toolbox.  One tool alone doesn't fix the problem.

True, Trudeau doesn't work alone.... 

[Victoria Watcher]

But it had no measurable effect. It fared no better than jurisdictions that scrapped mask mandates months ago. So it’s not an effective “tool”. No point being in the toolbox.

[dasmo]

I find this promising for the rest of us humans to go back to life...back to reality. 

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=oTR5-EncMTM

 

Moments after winning the Italian Open on Sunday afternoon in Rome, Novak Djokovic closed his eyes, tilted his head toward the sky, smiled and raised his racket with his right arm as he received a standing ovation. The Serbian tennis star soaked in his first tournament title since November after missing a chunk of the season because he was unvaccinated against the coronavirus.

https://www.msn.com/...inal/ar-AAXjq6F