Jump to content

      












Photo

COVID-19 / Coronavirus updates in Victoria, BC


  • This topic is locked This topic is locked
26227 replies to this topic

#25761 Victoria Watcher

Victoria Watcher

    Old White Man On A Canadian Island

  • Member
  • 32,741 posts

Posted 16 May 2022 - 01:34 PM

Masks absolutely do reduce the spread of virus containing droplets. Mask effectiveness is also a factor of time. Those few minutes you're face-to-face with a cashier in a grocery store, the masks help. The hour you're conversing with your banker in a small room? Maybe not so much. That doesn't mean they don't help. The other problem with masks is enforcement - nobody masks at a friend's indoor party.

What are masks mandatory on trains and planes, and Quebec and Ontario public transit, on Alberta public transit but only for those 13+, but not BC public transit?

Science?

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 16 May 2022 - 01:35 PM.

  • Nparker likes this

#25762 Nparker

Nparker
  • Member
  • 32,541 posts

Posted 16 May 2022 - 01:38 PM

As dasmo would say "political science".



#25763 Ismo07

Ismo07
  • Member
  • 2,401 posts

Posted 16 May 2022 - 01:51 PM

Irony abounds.... 

Full-Year 2021 Revenues of $81.3 Billion, Reflecting 92% Operational Growth; Excluding Contributions from Comirnaty(1) and Paxlovid, Revenues Grew 6% Operationally to $44.4 Billion

 

Yet this guy is an evil capitalist with an agenda to sell more AC units in his home town.... 

 

No not evil but certainly adding to his game.



#25764 Ismo07

Ismo07
  • Member
  • 2,401 posts

Posted 16 May 2022 - 01:54 PM

What are masks mandatory on trains and planes, and Quebec and Ontario public transit, on Alberta public transit but only for those 13+, but not BC public transit?

Science?

 

You know the difference between Federal and Provincial laws?  Why do we keep banging our heads on this...  You don't like your provincial laws/mandates/policy you have options.



#25765 Victoria Watcher

Victoria Watcher

    Old White Man On A Canadian Island

  • Member
  • 32,741 posts

Posted 16 May 2022 - 02:00 PM

You know the difference between Federal and Provincial laws? Why do we keep banging our heads on this... You don't like your provincial laws/mandates/policy you have options.


We know why the laws CAN be different. But every level of government always told us they were following the science. Different governments following different science.
  • Nparker likes this

#25766 dasmo

dasmo
  • Member
  • 8,141 posts

Posted 16 May 2022 - 02:15 PM

In places like Nashville their political science was a lot different. My DJ friend says masks never really took root there. He just kept DJing packed clubs this entire time...

https://tennesseesta...till-in-effect/



#25767 Ismo07

Ismo07
  • Member
  • 2,401 posts

Posted 16 May 2022 - 02:16 PM

We know why the laws CAN be different. But every level of government always told us they were following the science. Different governments following different science.

 

Yes... We have always seen that..



#25768 Ismo07

Ismo07
  • Member
  • 2,401 posts

Posted 16 May 2022 - 02:21 PM

In places like Nashville their political science was a lot different. My DJ friend says masks never really took root there. He just kept DJing packed clubs this entire time...

https://tennesseesta...till-in-effect/

 

Sigh...  over 3,800 deaths per million....  What did they do wrong?  Just speak to the deaths and sickness there...  Not enough distancing?  Poor vaccine take up?  Geography?  Density? Tell me why they are the 5th worst state for this.  If they were a country they'd be ranked 9th worst (or best I suppose) for this number. 



#25769 dasmo

dasmo
  • Member
  • 8,141 posts

Posted 16 May 2022 - 02:24 PM

Sigh...  over 3,800 deaths per million....  What did they do wrong?  Just speak to the deaths and sickness there...  Not enough distancing?  Poor vaccine take up?  Geography?  Density? Tell me why they are the 5th worst state for this.  If they were a country they'd be ranked 9th worst (or best I suppose) for this number. 

Sigh.... no context or autopsies or any real impact of this statistic in reality. Perhaps it's because people over 80 have been dying for all time? 

You try and paint such a bleak picture and yet... 

Earlier this year, TODAY named Nashville as one of the top 10 cities to live in after the pandemic — citing a great job market, high quality of life and low cost of living. We will continue to see young, smart and skilled workers moving to or deciding to stay in Music City to pursue their careers.

https://www.tennesse...ity/8853735002/



#25770 dasmo

dasmo
  • Member
  • 8,141 posts

Posted 16 May 2022 - 02:34 PM

4PototE.jpeg



#25771 Ismo07

Ismo07
  • Member
  • 2,401 posts

Posted 16 May 2022 - 02:55 PM

Sigh.... no context or autopsies or any real impact of this statistic in reality. Perhaps it's because people over 80 have been dying for all time? 

You try and paint such a bleak picture and yet... 

Earlier this year, TODAY named Nashville as one of the top 10 cities to live in after the pandemic — citing a great job market, high quality of life and low cost of living. We will continue to see young, smart and skilled workers moving to or deciding to stay in Music City to pursue their careers.

https://www.tennesse...ity/8853735002/

 

That's great.. Avoid the question and liken it to bigfoot sightings...  For me Nashville is the best US city I've every been to and would move there too, though I'd like to check out Austin...  There are just way less people there now than would normally be...  8th worst in the world because they over reported Covid deaths compared to everyone else.  Yeah logic.

 

2019 deaths in Tennessee  71,936 

2020 deaths in Tennessee 84,194 

 

Kind of staggering... I guess a great job market comes from losing nearly 17% more people.


Edited by Ismo07, 16 May 2022 - 02:57 PM.

  • sebberry likes this

#25772 dasmo

dasmo
  • Member
  • 8,141 posts

Posted 16 May 2022 - 02:56 PM

Speaking of the political science, this is on the WHO pandemic treaty our masters are soon to sigh....

https://youtu.be/gafV6YhhnAQ



#25773 Ismo07

Ismo07
  • Member
  • 2,401 posts

Posted 16 May 2022 - 03:10 PM

Speaking of the political science, this is on the WHO pandemic treaty our masters are soon to sigh....

https://youtu.be/gafV6YhhnAQ

 

Sigh, more fear mongering...  How have I never heard of this archeologist?  I love when conspiracy folks tell us this isn't a conspiracy theory.



#25774 LJ

LJ
  • Member
  • 11,321 posts

Posted 16 May 2022 - 07:31 PM

Gun deaths are over 1,700 per day (in 20210 and the US isn't too concerned about that)...

 

 

You sure about that?

 

On average between 2013-16, every day in America, 316 people are shot. More than 100 of them die each day.


Life's a journey......so roll down the window and enjoy the breeze.

#25775 Victoria Watcher

Victoria Watcher

    Old White Man On A Canadian Island

  • Member
  • 32,741 posts

Posted 17 May 2022 - 04:52 AM

What we are seeing — which is great news — is signs that the BA.2 wave is declining,” said Otto, an evolutionary biologist and mathematical modeller at the University of British Columbia. “We’re seeing [the decline] in the wastewater, we’re also seeing it in the number of cases over age 70,” said Otto. “We’ll have a report out on Wednesday.”

The decline isn’t steep, said Otto, but there was a plateau last week and the growth rate since is negative and enough to give modellers confidence it’s on a downward trend. The levels of infection for the second Omicron wave are half that of the first Omicron wave in January and February, which was the highest infection numbers so far in the pandemic, she said.

If people have the sense that many around them are getting or have recently had COVID-19 it’s because we’re dropping from sky-high levels to almost sky-high, she said.

https://www.timescol...g-group-5376089

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 17 May 2022 - 04:53 AM.


#25776 amor de cosmos

amor de cosmos

    BUILD

  • Member
  • 6,420 posts

Posted 17 May 2022 - 07:19 AM

In the new work, the researchers determined the three-dimensional structure of J08 as it bound to the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2. They confirmed that J08 successfully attached to the Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Delta variants and neutralized the viruses—preventing them from replicating. However, J08 attached to the Omicron variant about 7 times more slowly, and then rapidly came off. About 4,000 times more J08 was needed to fully neutralize Omicron SARS-CoV-2 compared to the other variants.

“With variants other than Omicron, this antibody binds quickly and doesn’t come off for hours and hours,” says co-first author Gabriel Ozorowski, a senior staff scientist in the Ward lab at Scripps Research. “With Omicron, we were initially happy to find that it still binds, but it falls off very quickly. We identified the two structural changes that cause this.”

The team showed that, for all the variants, J08 binds to a very small section of the virus—a section that generally stays the same even as the virus mutates. Moreover, J08 could attach in two completely different orientations, like a key that manages to unlock a door whether it is right side up or upside down. 

“This small, flexible footprint is part of why J08 is able to withstand so many mutations—they don’t impact the antibody binding unless they happen to be in this one very small part of the virus,” says co-first author Jonathan Torres, lab manager of the Ward lab at Scripps Research.

https://www.scripps....as-covid19.html
https://www.scienced...20513170750.htm
 

Newswise — The profound health and economic impact of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine during its first year of rollout in the US is described in detail in a new study in the peer-reviewed Journal of Medical Economics.

It is estimated that in 2021 the vaccine, the most widely used against COVID-19 in the US, prevented 8.7 million symptomatic cases of the virus, as well as 690,000 hospitalizations and more than 110,000 deaths.

The vaccine is also credited with saving more than $30 billion in healthcare costs and over $40 billion in lost productivity.

The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was the first COVID-19 vaccine to become available in the US and, according to estimates from the US public health agency, the Centers for Disease Control, was given to almost six in ten citizens who were fully vaccinated in 2021.
 
The study’s authors – all of whom received funding from Pfizer, either as direct employees, consultants or employees of firms paid by Pfizer – used a model, real-world and trial data to estimate how many symptomatic COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations and deaths would have occurred that year if the vaccine had not been available.

https://www.newswise...al-study-finds/
 

As hundreds of meatpacking workers fell sick from the coronavirus that was spreading through their plants and into their communities in April 2020, the CEO of Tyson Foods reached out to the head of another major meatpacker, Smithfield Foods, with a proposal.

Smithfield’s pork plant in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, had been hit particularly hard, and state and local officials were pressuring the company to shut it down.

“Anything we can do to help?” Tyson CEO Noel White asked in an email.

Smithfield’s CEO Ken Sullivan replied that he wished there was.

But White had an idea. Would Sullivan like to discuss the possibility of getting President Donald Trump to sign an executive order to keep meatpacking plants open?

So began a high-pressure lobbying campaign by the meat industry, according to a report released Thursday by congressional investigators, leading to one of the most consequential moments in the nation’s COVID-19 response: a presidential order that effectively thwarted efforts by local health officials to shut plants down and slow the spread of COVID-19.

In 2020, ProPublica obtained thousands of emails and other documents showing that the meatpacking industry had ignored years of pandemic warnings, tried to overrule public health officials and exposed vulnerable workers and their communities to COVID-19.

But the new report from the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis, along with revelations in a wrongful death lawsuit, make clear that the callousness of meatpacking executives and the level of industry influence over the Trump administration were far greater than previously known.

https://www.govexec....ovid-19/366956/



#25777 Ismo07

Ismo07
  • Member
  • 2,401 posts

Posted 18 May 2022 - 08:57 AM

You sure about that?

 

On average between 2013-16, every day in America, 316 people are shot. More than 100 of them die each day.

 

No I'm not sure about that lol...  I can't recall what I was thinking there.  



#25778 Victoria Watcher

Victoria Watcher

    Old White Man On A Canadian Island

  • Member
  • 32,741 posts

Posted 18 May 2022 - 09:07 AM

https://www.worldome...rus/country/us/

 

screenshot-www.worldometers.info-2022.05.18-13_06_30.png



#25779 Victoria Watcher

Victoria Watcher

    Old White Man On A Canadian Island

  • Member
  • 32,741 posts

Posted 18 May 2022 - 12:21 PM

G & M:

 

 

 

Ottawa continues to ban unvaccinated people from domestic plane and train travel, and it needs to explain why. Is it an effort to nudge those who’ve never had a shot into finally taking the plunge?

 

We supported the policy, in part for that reason. But Canada’s currently very low rate of first-dose uptake strongly suggests this nudge isn’t working.

 

Is it a measure to stop the spread of COVID-19? If so, it doesn’t jibe with the fact that over 19,000 people, vaccinated and otherwise, will cram into the Scotiabank Saddledome in Calgary on Wednesday to watch the Battle of Alberta.

 

As for the requirement to prove you are vaccinated to board an international flight, it’s a moot point in the sense that most countries won’t let you off the plane at the other end without the same proof.

 

But if the need to provide vaccination proof at airports for every departure and arrival, along with the federal government’s random onsite testing for returning Canadians, are indeed the reason airports are currently clogged – as airport operators maintain – then Ottawa should explain the rationale for keeping those rules in place.

 

There may well be one. We are certainly in favour of continuing to require that foreign visitors be vaccinated to fly to Canada, in order to minimize the risk of them becoming a burden on our health system.

 

But right now there is an obvious gap between Ottawa’s rules and the provinces’ rules. To maintain Canadians’ ongoing support for and confidence in public health, Ottawa needs to explain why that is.

 

https://www.theglobe..._medium=twitter



#25780 Mike K.

Mike K.
  • Administrator
  • 70,183 posts

Posted 18 May 2022 - 12:25 PM

I know just one person who had COVID who also didn’t have the vaccines. She’s a nurse, or was. Everyone else who had or has COVID received at least two shots.
  • Nparker likes this

Know it all.
Citified.ca is Victoria's most comprehensive research resource for new-build homes and commercial spaces.


You're not quite at the end of this discussion topic!

Use the page links at the lower-left to go to the next page to read additional posts.
 



7 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 6 guests, 0 anonymous users


    Bing (1)