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#17701 phx

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Posted 14 September 2021 - 07:18 PM

Vaccination rates continue to stagnate.  It’s a shame we’ve reached the fourth quarter of the vaccination campaign without a plan.



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Posted 14 September 2021 - 08:22 PM

Vaccination rates continue to stagnate.  It’s a shame we’ve reached the fourth quarter of the vaccination campaign without a plan.

 

The vaccine card is a plan - to encourage holdouts to get vaccinated.

The requirement to be vaccinated to work in health care & federally overseen industries will help with the numbers too.

An upcoming major step will be those under the age of 12 once approval is received.

And we're seeing industry step up and mandate vaccinations amongst their employees too - albeit slowly for now.


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Posted 14 September 2021 - 08:32 PM

"A total of six COVID-related deaths have been reported at Sunset Lodge since an outbreak was declared on Aug. 27, chief medical health officer Dr. Richard Stanwick said Tuesday."


So... Is it not newsworthy that 6(!) DOUBLE VACCINATED individuals have died from 1 housing facility in Victoria? Anyone...? Does not the complete absense of their vaccination status in the Times Colonist reporting on this in today's media climate not speak volumes? Nothing to see here folks, move along now.
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#17704 Mike K.

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Posted 14 September 2021 - 09:09 PM

It's certainly not good for the businesses that support those conventions. Remember, Alberta is "open for business". Yet their policies re: the pandemic are literally doing the opposite. Ignoring the problem and hoping it goes away doesn't work. Shocker. It's telling that 70% of businesses there are asking for a passport, and think that that's the best way out of the mess that the AB government has created.


Sure, but conventions?

That’s so odd.

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#17705 phx

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Posted 14 September 2021 - 09:37 PM

The vaccine card is a plan - to encourage holdouts to get vaccinated.

 

 

Vaccine hesitancy was identified as a problem a while ago and needed to be addressed effectively.

 

Encouraging vaccination by limiting dining options to fast-food?  Perhaps the ruling elite imagine dining without table service to be so horrible that the hoi polloi will rush to be vaccinated.



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Posted 15 September 2021 - 06:50 AM

Very, very few people are going to get the vaccine because of restaurant access.

If they are hesitant to begin with, they are likely avoiding public places and going by the guidance that staying away from public places is the best policy.

I mean look at how backwards this all is, when fully vaccinated persons are still working from home to be safe, but go out and get drunk at restaurants. How does that make sense?

The protesting crowds the media shows are a fringe minority. They do not broadly represent the unvaccinated, despite the media’s assertion they do. What the media isn’t showing you are the normal, regular people who are choosing not to get the vaccine but are not going out of their way to tell anyone about it. That’s the overwhelming majority of people who are not vaxxed.

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#17707 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 06:53 AM

exactly.  i get drunk at home now and go to restaurants to work.  safer.


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#17708 Mike K.

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 06:58 AM

If you -really- want the passport to be coercive, introduce it to work places. There’s no reason offices with 90% vaxxed employees should still be sitting 90% empty. The unvaxxed can continue working from home until that’s just no longer tenable for them and they need to get back to the office.

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#17709 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 07:03 AM

If you -really- want the passport to be coercive, introduce it to work places. There’s no reason offices with 90% vaxxed employees should still be sitting 90% empty. The unvaxxed can continue working from home until that’s just no longer tenable for them and they need to get back to the office.

 

that sounds like a disincentive.  get vaxxed and you have to go back to work.   

 

for a couple of my friends that ls going to totally eliminate their 10am Friday departure to their vacation homes up island every weekend!  and their Monday morning arrival back, when they used to have to come back Sunday night.


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#17710 Mike K.

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 07:13 AM

It’s tongue in cheek, of course.

There only seems to be a concern among the vocal pro-passport groups as it relates to frivolity like bars and restaurants, but what they don’t realize is this passport is how the return to the office will be implemented, starting with public employees.

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 07:24 AM

When the Clinton Public Hospital emergency department had to close its doors on the August long weekend because it didn't have enough nurses to operate, Holly Braecker was embarrassed.
 
"I mean, we work so hard, and it felt like we kind of let the community down that day," said Braecker, a registered nurse who, four years into her career, is one of the newer staff members in the small rural hospital about 80 kilometres north of London, Ont., near the shores of Lake Huron.
 
"You don't see emerg departments closing for a day. So for us to be kind of the first — well, that I've ever heard about — is embarrassing. That put us on the radar, and not in a good way."
 
With a small pool of six or seven registered nurses to pull from, the workload routinely spills over the four 12-hour shifts she and her colleagues are supposed to work each week. When White Coat, Black Art visited the hospital on Sept. 3, Braecker had worked every day that week.

https://www.cbc.ca/r...demic-1.6174048

The Mu variant of COVID-19 is in B.C. Here's what you need to know
https://www.timescol...know-1.24357892
 
Two-thirds of people report experiencing social isolation and loneliness during pandemic
https://medicalxpres...-isolation.html

UK Inflation Jumps to Highest Rate in Nine Years as Pandemic Bottleneck Hits Food And Petrol Prices
https://sputniknews....1089089321.html
 

On August 28, demonstrators protesting the government’s measures to curb COVID-19 in Scarborough, a resort town on England’s North Sea coast, surrounded and threatened Norton, a reporter for public broadcaster BBC, his cameraman, and a site producer, the journalist told CPJ via messaging app and local news site Yorkshire Live reported. CPJ was unable to determine the name of the cameraman or the site producer.
 
Norton tweeted that the three were in the area on assignment covering a story about the relaxation of COVID-19 restrictions when they were caught up in the protests.
 
In video footage Norton published on Twitter, a group of around 8 to 10 protesters cornered the journalists, shouting insults at them as one holding a megaphone threatened to hang Norton saying, “You will hang for what you’ve done to this country,” and “The nooses are ready.”
 
Norton also said on Twitter that the journalists were called “pedophiles,” “murderers,” “scumbags,” and “complicit.” Another man in the group appeared to make a cutthroat gesture, Yorkshire Live reported.
 
“U.K. authorities must rapidly and fully investigate the threats made against journalist Phillip Norton and his crew, find the perpetrators, and hold them to account,” said Gulnoza Said, CPJ’s Europe and Central Asia program coordinator, in New York. “Journalists must be able to do their work without intimidation and fear of being harassed and attacked.”

https://cpj.org/2021...otesters-in-uk/

MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Russian President Vladimir Putin was invited to the US-led virtual summit on the COVID-19 response, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on 15 September, adding that the president’s participation is being considered.
https://sputniknews....1089090342.html

Russia-led bloc voices concerns over sanctions imposed worldwide during pandemic
The CSTO member states expressed their support for the calls by the UN Secretary General to suspend such restrictions
https://tass.com/world/1338117
 

China's factory and retail sectors faltered in August with output and sales growth hitting one-year lows as fresh coronavirus outbreaks and supply disruptions threatened the country's impressive economic recovery.

Industrial production rose 5.3% in August from a year earlier, narrowing from an increase of 6.4% in July and marking the weakest pace since July 2020, data from the National Bureau of Statistics showed on Wednesday, September 15. Output growth missed the 5.8% increase tipped by analysts.

Consumer spending also took a big hit from rising local COVID-19 cases and floods with sales rising only 2.5% in August from a year ago, much lower than the forecast 7% rise and the slowest clip since August last year.

"Economic growth slowed in August as consumption was hit by the lingering impact of earlier COVID outbreaks and investment remained weak," said Louis Kuijs, head of Asia economics at Oxford Economics. "Meanwhile, a new outbreak which started a few days ago in Fujian is posing downside risk to our forecast of a pickup in growth in Q4 after a weak Q3."

https://www.rappler....les-august-2021

A Boy Went to a COVID-Swamped ER. He Waited for Hours. Then His Appendix Burst.
https://www.propubli...-appendix-burst
 

Republican legislators in more than half of U.S. states, spurred on by voters angry about lockdowns and mask mandates, are taking away the powers state and local officials use to protect the public against infectious diseases.

A KHN review of hundreds of pieces of legislation found that, in all 50 states, legislators have proposed bills to curb such public health powers since the covid-19 pandemic began. While some governors vetoed bills that passed, at least 26 states pushed through laws that permanently weaken government authority to protect public health. In three additional states, an executive order, ballot initiative or state Supreme Court ruling limited long-held public health powers. More bills are pending in a handful of states whose legislatures are still in session.

In Arkansas, legislators banned mask mandates except in private businesses or state-run health care settings, calling them “a burden on the public peace, health, and safety of the citizens of this state.” In Idaho, county commissioners, who typically have no public health expertise, can veto countywide public health orders. And in Kansas and Tennessee, school boards, rather than health officials, have the power to close schools.

President Joe Biden last Thursday announced sweeping vaccination mandates and other covid measures, saying he was forced to act partly because of such legislation: “My plan also takes on elected officials in states that are undermining you and these lifesaving actions.”

All told:

  • In at least 16 states, legislators have limited the power of public health officials to order mask mandates, or quarantines or isolation. In some cases, they gave themselves or local elected politicians the authority to prevent the spread of infectious disease.
  • At least 17 states passed laws banning covid vaccine mandates or passports, or made it easier to get around vaccine requirements.
  • At least nine states have new laws banning or limiting mask mandates. Executive orders or a court ruling limit mask requirements in five more.
Much of this legislation takes effect as covid hospitalizations in some areas are climbing to the highest numbers at any point in the pandemic, and children are back in school.

“We really could see more people sick, hurt, hospitalized or even die, depending on the extremity of the legislation and curtailing of the authority,” said Lori Tremmel Freeman, head of the National Association of County and City Health Officials.

https://khn.org/news...rs-in-pandemic/
 
Active-duty soldiers have three months to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 or face a possible discharge from the force, the Army announced Tuesday.
The 485,900 soldiers on active duty must be vaccinated by Dec. 15. But the 336,500 National Guard and 189,800 Reserve troops have until June 30, 2022, to be fully inoculated.
https://www.military...er-options.html

 

The New York State Supreme Court has issued a temporary restraining order against New York City's vaccine requirements for municipal workers. The order means the city cannot enforce its COVID-19 vaccine mandates, pending a hearing on September 22nd.

https://gothamist.co...-city-employees
 

A conservative radio talk show host and preacher in Denver who spoke out against COVID-19 vaccines has died after contracting coronavirus, one of his co-hosts announced.

Bob Enyart, who reportedly pushed unfounded claims about vaccines on his radio program and website, earlier this year urged his followers to boycott the vaccine in an attempt "to further increase social tension and put pressure on the child killers."

Fred Williams, one of Enyart's co-hosts, announced his death on Facebook on Monday.

"It comes with an extremely heavy heart that my close friend and co-host of Real Science Radio has lost his battle with Covid," Williams wrote.

"Bob Enyart was one of the smartest, and without question the wisest person I’ve known," Williams added. "All the while being exceedingly kind and humble, and always, always willing to listen and discuss anything you wanted."

https://thehill.com/...ies-of-covid-19



#17712 Belleprincess

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 07:33 AM

The people who are attacking restaurants for following the health order are absolute morons. Some guy up island was receiving death threats, unbelievable.
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#17713 Mike K.

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 07:36 AM

It’s totally believable. The passport is exactly the sort of thing that can set off people with anti-governmental tendencies. None of this is new or unique, it’s just that we haven’t had this much media exposure on it because it has never really been of interest to the media. But you’d be surprised (if you didn’t already know) how many people act that way towards all sorts of businesses or institutions, outside of COVID, because of perceived issues they have with them.

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#17714 Ismo07

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 08:38 AM

Very, very few people are going to get the vaccine because of restaurant access.

If they are hesitant to begin with, they are likely avoiding public places and going by the guidance that staying away from public places is the best policy.

I mean look at how backwards this all is, when fully vaccinated persons are still working from home to be safe, but go out and get drunk at restaurants. How does that make sense?

The protesting crowds the media shows are a fringe minority. They do not broadly represent the unvaccinated, despite the media’s assertion they do. What the media isn’t showing you are the normal, regular people who are choosing not to get the vaccine but are not going out of their way to tell anyone about it. That’s the overwhelming majority of people who are not vaxxed.

 

Hesitant people about the vaccine are generally hesitant about the pandemic, they do not believe it's a big deal because they are young and healthy.  People (generally) are working at home because it's a better live/work balance (more live than work).  Going out and getting drunk is part of that balance.  The broad unvaxxed are young and don't care about being out and about....


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#17715 Wayne

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 09:44 AM

The broad unvaxxed are young and don't care about being out and about....

 

A friend who is a student at UVic told me this last night (so yes 2nd hand info) ;

 

"Professors are telling UVic students they do not need to provide the vaccine passport, they can self proclaim their vaccinations".



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Posted 15 September 2021 - 11:45 AM

For what though? For access to on campus restaurants and gyms you need to show the passport. As far as I know, for access to classrooms and general campus areas (outside of food sit down areas) you don’t. The self declare part is a UVic policy for all campus access. So the professor would be correct if talking about access to classes.

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 11:59 AM

Hesitant people about the vaccine are generally hesitant about the pandemic, they do not believe it's a big deal because they are young and healthy. People (generally) are working at home because it's a better live/work balance (more live than work). Going out and getting drunk is part of that balance. The broad unvaxxed are young and don't care about being out and about....


I don’t know a single person under 40 who is unvaccinated. The unvaccinated I know, personally, are all older. They are also not going to bars getting drunk while working from home.
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Posted 15 September 2021 - 12:07 PM

I don’t know a single person under 40 who is unvaccinated. The unvaccinated I know, personally, are all older. They are also not going to bars getting drunk while working from home.

Have you scanned their passport? I wouldn’t trust anyone under 40

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 12:10 PM

For what though? For access to on campus restaurants and gyms you need to show the passport. As far as I know, for access to classrooms and general campus areas (outside of food sit down areas) you don’t. The self declare part is a UVic policy for all campus access. So the professor would be correct if talking about access to classes.

 

that's right they have an app type thing.  self-declare, no proof required.

 

 

The self-declaration platform, administered by Thrive Health, asks students and employees to declare whether they are fully vaccinated, partially vaccinated, or unvaccinated. Students, staff, and faculty can also choose not to disclose their vaccination status and can update their status at any time.

 

 

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Posted 15 September 2021 - 12:24 PM

I don’t know a single person under 40 who is unvaccinated. The unvaccinated I know, personally, are all older. They are also not going to bars getting drunk while working from home.

 

Ah well I know many, from bars getting drunk...  You need to broaden your circles with young folks and slap those old people who aren't vaxxed before you are hoping they get better.  You don't go to bars anyway...  I don't know if this can be figured out but I would wager more 41-60 years old's are vaxxed than the 21-40 year old's, as a %.


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