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[KAS]

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The census doesn't show a death rate. Kinda of hard to fill out the forms if you are dead! Here is the link to the 1901 census.
 
https://www.bac-lac....out-census.aspx

Your link also states that there was a Schedule 3 - Deaths compiled at the time of the census. While only Schedules 1and 2 have been preserved in their entirety, and are available online, Bryce, as an official of the government, and writing in 1906, would have had access to that information.

[Victoria Watcher]

The thuggish mobs that have been tearing down monuments such as the Capt. James Cook statue in the Inner Harbour have more in common with the likes of ISIS and the Taliban than with any form of legitimate credible protest.

 

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What we are learning about residential schools is awful. As a trade unionist I have long supported the right to strike and peaceful right to protest.

 

What we are witnessing in torching churches and vandalizing statues is not constructive or peaceful protest, it is simply lawlessness and anarchy.

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The signs of cancel culture that we are presently seeing in the toppling of statues and the defacing of buildings, if followed to its logical conclusion, will at best result in a sort of anarchy.

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I am appalled and saddened by the removal of the Capt. James Cook statue by what can only be described as a bunch of out-of-control vandals.

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I was very upset at the toppling of the sculpture of Capt. James Cook. It is a fine piece of artwork that I have admired since the day it went up.

 

I have also always admired the man. This was no dictator, no slave-trading racist. He was a sailor, an explorer, a scientific observer of a fascinating new world.

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Why are we allowing this to go on like it is?

 

These statues are history that elders had in school. Maybe we don’t all agree with this statue or this church, but you don’t set fire or pull down things.

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Under what statute do we authorize police to watch and do nothing when public property is vandalized?

 

Amongst all this cancellation silliness, has authorized immunity been given to certain groups. I await news of appropriate charges to be laid.

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Reconciliation: the restoration of friendly relations. Unfortunately, we cannot change the past.

 

What are we doing now to reach our goal of reconciliation?

In the past few weeks churches have been vandalized and burned, statues have been torn down and totem poles have been set alight.

We’re further apart than ever. This is not the path to friendly relations.

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After the recent unprecedented heatwave, where people hid in their cool basements, how is it that someone on July 1, Canada Day, decided that the statue of Capt. James Cook should be torn down and defaced?

 

How was this thoughtful and reflective about what has gone on at the residential schools in Canada? This was just another senseless act of vandalism and no resolution to what happened!

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I am horrified by the image of the vandalism of the Capt. James Cook statue at the Inner Harbour.

 

Although we can disagree on the value of this statue, vandalism is vandalism and removing a statue will never remove the history. Will the statues of Capt. George Vancouver and Queen Victoria become the next target?

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Is there really room for “discussion” about what to do next with the Capt. James Cook statue? It has to go back, as any other decision will sanction mob rule.

 

There is nothing in our legal system that allows for this sort of conduct in the first place and thus it should not be the basis for public policy after the act.

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https://www.timescol...rchy-1.24338999

[Victoria Watcher]

where is the "end of june" report?

[spanky123]

^ At this point there is no benefit to producing a report. The media and special interests have accepted that there are 215 murdered children in a mass grave and any report would only risk undermining that. 

 

Nobody in the MSM is going to ask where the report is or why it has not been produced, why the FN has refused to work with the RCMP or BC Coroner or why they refuse to detail which company did the scanning.

Edited by spanky123, 06 July 2021 - 06:41 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

great.  and we lost churches and statues over the news.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 06 July 2021 - 06:44 AM.

[FawltyVic]

great.  and we lost churches and statues over the news.

Sadly Spanky speaks the truth. Like Donald Trump was for 4 years in the States, this is now the media's meal ticket here in Canada and they're not going to do anything to derail it.

 

What I fear from the lack of police action during the tearing down of statues in both Victoria and Winnipeg is lawlessness will be allowed to continue. When the Egerton Ryerson statue was removed in Ontario, I expected nothing would be done by the O.P.P. just as they had done nothing in Caledonia and Ipperwash. They allowed people to be violently assaulted and terrorized during those years.

Edited by FawltyVic, 06 July 2021 - 10:49 AM.

[FawltyVic]

And another church went up in flames. This one happened this past Sunday in Calgary. It was a church for the Vietnamese community.

 

https://westernstand...ime-in-calgary/

[spanky123]

And another church went up in flames. This one happened this past Sunday in Calgary. It was a church for the Vietnamese community.

 

https://westernstand...ime-in-calgary/

 

I hadn't realized that the Vietnamese ran residential schools, learn something new every day.

[Victoria Watcher]

any sign of the report?

[Victoria Watcher]

Former 'landmark' Catholic church northwest of Saskatoon burns to the ground

 

'In light of everything that's going on in the country, it's just a little bit suspicious'

 

 

 

https://nationalpost...s-to-the-ground

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chinese diplomat, party newspaper post cartoon of Trudeau on indigenous skulls, escalating campaign

 

Beijing goes a bold step further in denouncing Canada's criticism of its mistreatment of Uyghurs

 

 

https://nationalpost...lating-campaign

 

 

 

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 08 July 2021 - 01:25 PM.

[anon scientist]

Donald Trump will go down in history for inciting the capital insurgency. And hopefully nothing more will come from him.

It looks as though Justin Trudeau and his governance will go down in history for inciting a race war. So hopefully we can stop him and all the invested stakeholders before this happens.

Edited by anon scientist, 09 July 2021 - 08:19 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

any sign of the report?

 

 

 

 

 

The Province of Alberta is launching an $8 million grant program to support the research and discovery of unmarked burial sites and undocumented deaths at residential schools across the province. The June 23 announcement comes in response to the discovery of the remains of 215 children in a mass burial site at a former residential school in Kamloops BC.

 

Minister of Indigenous Relations, Rick Wilson, said facing and acknowledging the events around residential schools is the starting point to reconciliation. “I don’t believe I’m overstating it when I say that Canadians and Albertans are deeply shaken by this horrifying revelation,” he said. “In this country we’ve skirted the truth. Even though residential survivors and elders have been telling us for years that many children did not find their way home.” First Nations communities and organizations will be able to apply online for grants of up to $150,000 Alberta Premier Jason Kenney said the province has a moral obligation to find the bodies of undocumented students, and to “recover their memory.”

 

“The discovery of 215 remains of students at the former Kamloops residential school has shaken our nation,” said Kenney. “The horrendousness of that system is hard for us today to comprehend, and we have been reminded that there have been many of those students who were buried in unmarked graves or graves that have been lost.”

 

 

 

 

https://www.thestar....rave-sites.html

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 09 July 2021 - 08:59 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

The leaders of south Vancouver Island First Nations are gathering in Esquimalt Friday morning to sign a letter addressing recent acts of vandalism and violence in the region.

 

On Canada Day, the statue of Captain James Cook was toppled into the Inner Harbour and replaced with several red wooden dresses. The following day, a totem atop the Malahat Drive was seen burning with the words “ONE TOTEM – ONE STATUE” spray-painted on a concrete barrier in front of it.

 

 

 

 

https://www.vicnews....ncouver-island/

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 09 July 2021 - 09:22 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

follow the money.

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...eople-1.6096493

 

RoseAnne Archibald says redress must go beyond payments to residential, day school and Sixties Scoop survivors

 

 

The newly-elected leader of the largest advocacy organization for First Nations in Canada has thrown her support behind the idea of reparations for Indigenous people.

 

Speaking at a virtual press conference one day after being elected national chief of the Assembly of First Nations, RoseAnne Archibald said settler colonialism has had dire effects on Indigenous people in Canada — effects that continue to this day and demand redress.

 

"Reparations are an essential part of the journey on reconciliation," Archibald said. "Our communities have had longstanding negative impacts as a result of colonization."

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 09 July 2021 - 03:12 PM.

[FawltyVic]

I love the name of this place and I believe he should be allowed to protest, but if his business goes under because of his own actions cry to someone else.

 

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...onald-1.6093888

 

Mi'kmaw-owned pizza shop turning away $10 bills featuring Sir John A. Macdonald

 

Owner of Nova Scotia shop says he won't accept $10 bills bearing image of former prime minister

Erin Pottie · CBC News ·  

Posted: Jul 08, 2021 6:00 AM AT | Last Updated: July 8

 

A Mi'kmaw-owned pizza shop in Nova Scotia is turning away bills featuring Canada's first prime minister after the grim discovery of hundreds of unmarked graves at the sites of former residential schools in the country.

 

In a social media post on Canada Day, the shop told customers it would no longer accept $10 bills featuring Sir John A. Macdonald. Macdonald's government introduced residential schools in 1883 to assimilate Indigenous children and strip them of their culture. 

 

"The discovery of bodies brought it more to the surface," said Paul MacDonald, co-owner of Belly Busters Pizza and Donair in Membertou, a First Nation community of about 1,700 people on Cape Breton Island.  

"It was always there, but that really opened people's eyes now."

Edited by FawltyVic, 09 July 2021 - 08:04 PM.

[FawltyVic]

https://www.kitchene...pm-path-3923219

 

Remove statues, discontinue investment: recommendation for Wilmot's PM Path

 

The first recommendation from the report by First Peoples Group is to “consider removing all statues” and “discontinue any future expansion or investment” into the project

 

Jun 30, 2021 7:24 PM By: Aastha Shetty

 

A long-awaited report looking into the future of the Prime Minister's Path in Wilmot has been released.

The first recommendation from the report is to “consider removing all statues” and “discontinue any future expansion or investment” into the project.

 

First Peoples Group representative Melissa Hammell says three major themes came up during their consultations with the community including the educational value of the project, the project's effect on "community cohesion," and how the lack of community engagement has affected residents of Wilmot.

 

 

YouTube First People's Group report presentation here:

https://www.youtube....h?v=rYSLprJ5taU

 

 

The end result here:

 

https://www.cbc.ca/n...moved-1.6092787

 

Prime ministers' statues removed from Baden park after Wilmot council cancels project

 

Next step is to set up committee to decide fate of statues

 

CBC News · Posted: Jul 07, 2021 9:24 AM ET | Last Updated: July 7

 

The remaining statues along the Prime Ministers' Path in Baden have been removed from a park beside the Wilmot township administrative building, township staff say.

 

The statues of Sir Robert Borden, Kim Campbell, William Lyon Mackenzie King and Lester Pearson were removed as of Wednesday morning, the township said in a news release.

 

The statue of Sir John A. Macdonald was put into storage in 2020 after members of the public called for it to be removed from the park because he was an architect of the residential school system.

 

As well, another statue for the "Unfortunate Four" — Sir John  Abbott, Sir Mackenzie Bowell, Sir John Thompson, and Sir Charles Tupper — has remained in storage and was never installed.

Edited by FawltyVic, 09 July 2021 - 08:26 PM.

[spanky123]

^Hmmm. Don't understand why we are not taking down totem poles. To me they are symbols of slavery and other abuses that occurred with the West Coast FN and for which they have never apologized.

[Benezet]

^Hmmm. Don't understand why we are not taking down totem poles. To me they are symbols of slavery and other abuses that occurred with the West Coast FN and for which they have never apologized.

Many amends have been made, in fact.

https://nationalpost...ies-of-the-past

[spanky123]

Looks like the Kamloops FN will be releasing their "final report" on the GPR next week. 215: Final report on Kamloops burial sites coming next week - North Shore News (nsnews.com). Lets see if this answers questions or raises more.

Edited by spanky123, 11 July 2021 - 10:47 AM.

[pontcanna]

Over 160 unmarked graves discovered near residential school on Penelakut Island

July 12, 2021

More than 160 undocumented and unmarked graves have been discovered near the site of the Kuper Island Industrial Residential School off Vancouver Island, CHEK News has learned.

The unmarked graves were reported by an internal memo circulated by Penelakut Tribe that has been circulated online.

“We understand that many of our brothers and sisters from our neighbouring communities attended the Kuper Island Residential School. We also recognize with a tremendous amount of grief and loss, that too many did not return home,” reads a statement from Penelakut Tribe Chief Joan Brown.

 

More: https://www.cheknews...-island-836092/