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#21 Mike K.

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Posted 30 October 2022 - 07:11 AM

Covenant is an interesting word to use to describe what is otherwise a pledge.

Weird.

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Posted 30 October 2022 - 07:20 AM

Was it eight, or seven? Four year terms began in the last term, didn’t they?...

 

Lisa Helps [is the] outgoing mayor of Victoria, British Columbia...She narrowly defeated incumbent mayor Dean Fortin in the 2014 municipal election...

https://en.wikipedia...wiki/Lisa_Helps


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Posted 30 October 2022 - 07:26 AM

Covenant is an interesting word to use to describe what is otherwise a pledge.

Weird.

It’s weirder that the mayor of Nanaimo made a written pledge to the covenant. This stuff should just exist like a book in the library. A suggestion. A reference. Not a covenant.

Covenant:
A binding agreement; a compact. synonym: agreement.
A condition in a contract such as a deed or lease, nonperformance or violation of which gives rise to a cause of action for breach.
A contract.

It’s also weird our press doesn’t look at this

It wasn’t until Alberta’s premier cancelled their agreement with the WEF over “information sharing” on healthcare that the press even mentioned that existed.

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Posted 30 October 2022 - 07:28 AM

...It’s also weird our press doesn’t look at this...

It's not so weird when you consider who funds the mainstream media.



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Posted 30 October 2022 - 07:35 AM

If you watch that WEF clip with Danielle Smith it’s pretty crazy how the reporter brings his question on the subject. It’s strange that “the left” has been co-opted by globalists. It wasn’t so long ago that they were fighting them. The occupy movement was left wasn’t it? It seemed like left and right was used as much back then. It certainly was led on my radar.

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Posted 30 October 2022 - 10:36 PM

What a tangled web…
“The Global Covenant of Mayors Canada is a collaboration between the Federation of Canadian Municipalities, ICLEI Canada, the Global Covenant of Mayors Secretariat and the International Urban Cooperation Project supported by funding from the European Union. The initiative combines two leading domestic climate programs, the Partners for Climate Protection (PCP) program and Building Adaptive and Resilient Communities (BARC), with the leading global climate program. Together we can further advance Canadian local climate action by adding value, opportunities and streamlined support for members.”

https://globalcovena...-of-nanaimo-bc/

But what about the street crime and potholes?

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Posted 30 October 2022 - 10:46 PM

PCP and BARC sound like the right acronyms for two groups that have no business meddling in local politics.
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Posted 31 October 2022 - 06:20 AM

I bet those misting stations around town earned us a badge!

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Posted 31 October 2022 - 06:49 AM

I feel like making a board with cutouts and strings connecting all these organizations. Bloomberg again…

http://www.oecd-incl...yor-lisa-helps/

The Champion Mayors initiative is pleased to count on a range of supporting institutions to help shape this work, including the Ford Foundation, Brookings Institution, Climate Leadership Group, Cities Alliance, ICLEI Local Governments for Sustainability, C40 Cities, Bloomberg Philanthropies, Lincoln Institute of Land Policy, National League of Cities, United Cities and Local Governments (UCLG) and United Way Worldwide.

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Posted 01 November 2022 - 12:16 PM

It’s weirder that the mayor of Nanaimo made a written pledge to the covenant. This stuff should just exist like a book in the library. A suggestion. A reference. Not a covenant.

Covenant:
A binding agreement; a compact. synonym: agreement.
A condition in a contract such as a deed or lease, nonperformance or violation of which gives rise to a cause of action for breach.
A contract.

It’s also weird our press doesn’t look at this

It wasn’t until Alberta’s premier cancelled their agreement with the WEF over “information sharing” on healthcare that the press even mentioned that existed.

 

Do they mean coven? 


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#31 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 03 November 2022 - 06:30 AM

Is Victoria 3.0 anything more than some fancy pipe dream?

 

 

 

https://www.capitald...-victoria-mayor

 

 

 

“My dream for Victoria 3.0 is that people would embrace that as the new vision for the city,” Helps said, speaking in particular about people bringing applications to create businesses or change the city’s built environment. “I want it to be…the community's economic action plan. And that's what's happened.”

 

A key component of the plan involves creating an Arts and Innovation District centred along Store Street, near the now-former location of Capital Iron.

 

Making the vision for the district a reality will involve broad rezoning of the area, opening opportunities for artist studios and residences, as well as tech sector investment. City staff are currently working on the changes to the district, and Helps hopes the planning will be finished in the coming year.

 

“I hope that the council and the public take the time to get that rezoning right and then it really will set the table for some really good economic outcomes in that part of town,” Helps said.


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#32 Mike K.

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Posted 03 November 2022 - 06:57 AM

Ok.

Let’s ease off the skinny pedal for a second. It’s all market driven, so when you put the onus on the public to get it right, that implies under someone else’s leadership they got it wrong if it doesn’t pan out like it’s promised to by an outgoing mayor.

There is no money from artist studios in new-build construction. It’s the antithesis of the art world to be leading the charge with purpose-built projects like this.

At best, the art gallery will move there. But its leadership has been reluctant to leave Moss Street.
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Posted 03 November 2022 - 07:04 AM

Yeah, I think you’ve articulated the problem with this modern “plan-everything” paradigm: they’re trying to create from the top-down what only works when it happens organically from the bottom-up.
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#34 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 03 November 2022 - 07:07 AM

Correct and correct. You can of course try to force developers to include arts stuff. But it’ll be a tiny fraction of the project at best.

If you look at the 3.0 hub map it’s essentially Pandora to Bay to Douglas. Ain’t going to happen that way.

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#35 Mike K.

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Posted 03 November 2022 - 07:08 AM

That’s just it.

Masterplanned in every way. That simply doesn’t work.

Look at Dockside, or Bayview. So much was envisioned that both struggled to get the interesting stuff built. We seem to want to keep emulating that model over and over in Victoria.
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#36 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 03 November 2022 - 07:10 AM

Or old Sohghees. We finally got one restaurant. Among a bunch of boring condo buildings.

#37 Mike K.

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Posted 03 November 2022 - 07:10 AM

It’s all carrot, as they say.

Meanwhile, Harris Green is on the cusp of delivering 1,500-units of housing, a downtown park, a heap of new commercial inventory at the hands of a developer that can pull it all off, and just watch. It’s going to be a grind to get it approved.

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Posted 03 November 2022 - 07:10 AM

Or Selkirk.

The “unplanned” Cook Street Village is more vibrant.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 03 November 2022 - 07:12 AM.

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#39 Mike K.

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Posted 03 November 2022 - 07:12 AM

Selkirk actually worked out quite well, but it didn’t over-promise anything. It still has just one restaurant and no crazy feel-good stuff. It made sense, in other words, and the market responded.

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Posted 03 November 2022 - 08:01 AM

Why is anyone still listening to Lisa Helps' opinion on ANY topic?
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