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#41 Mike K.

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Posted 03 November 2022 - 08:21 AM

Anyone notice how the single largest infusion of rental housing, ever, in Victoria’s history any where, with virtually zero tenant displacement to make it happen, isn’t mentioned anywhere in these articles or crystal ball musings?
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Posted 03 November 2022 - 10:07 AM

Is Victoria 3.0 anything more than some fancy pipe dream?

 

Wasn't this going to be the Ocean Innovation district last year or the Smart Cities district before that or even the Green Energy district when Fortin was Mayor? 

 

The number one problem is that Helps and Fortin to a lesser extent only chased money and attention. Whatever the cause of the day was and whenever they felt they could get someone else to pay they were quite happy to align City resources behind it. Never mattered what the landowners or public wanted or what actually made business sense, it was a chance to leave a legacy.



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Posted 03 November 2022 - 10:08 AM

Anyone notice how the single largest infusion of rental housing, ever, in Victoria’s history any where, with virtually zero tenant displacement to make it happen, isn’t mentioned anywhere in these articles or crystal ball musings?

 

No because then people might start asking why prices keep going up. MMI is supposed to make housing 'affordable' to bloggers and baristas. 



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Posted 03 November 2022 - 10:21 AM

Why is anyone still listening to Lisa Helps' opinion on ANY topic?

 

For someone who apparently wants to take a break and spend "time with her family", she seems to be doing anything but either.

 

I think her biggest concern is that once she is gone then nobody will give a poop about her anymore. In the incestuous world of politics, as soon as you are no longer useful to your friend then you become a ghost.


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Posted 03 November 2022 - 10:24 AM

...I think her biggest concern is that once she is gone then nobody will give a poop about her anymore...

Being utterly forgotten would be Lisa Helps' greatest legacy.


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Posted 03 November 2022 - 10:25 AM

I think her biggest concern is that once she is gone then nobody will give a poop about her anymore.

That legacy can officially begin right now ... as the new Mayor and Council were sworn in this morning.



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Posted 03 November 2022 - 10:29 AM

That legacy can officially begin right now ... as the new Mayor and Council were sworn in this morning.

 

I think that Helps' backers are still going to want her to 'manage' the newcomers. Will see what her new role winds up being and how often she continues to meet with the newbies.



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Posted 03 November 2022 - 11:17 AM

She can be the local face and the end of the long chain of hidden hands!  :banana:  



#49 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 04 November 2022 - 03:55 AM

Meanwhile, of the newly elected councillors who took the oath of office on Thursday, only three — Chris Coleman, Stephen Hammond and Marg Gardiner — opted to swear allegiance to King Charles III.

 

Alto and councillors Jeremy Caradonna, Matt Dell, Susan Kim, Krista Loughton and Dave Thompson chose not to swear allegiance to the monarch.

 

 

 

 

https://www.timescol...a-mayor-6053725

 

 

 

 

No surprise, of course.


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#50 Nparker

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Posted 04 November 2022 - 04:07 AM

Together Victoria 2.0. 🤮

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Posted 04 November 2022 - 05:44 AM

They should swear allegiance to us. I would never pledge allegiance to that man. Why?
All those orders over the past few years were enabled by his appointed representatives. Not through our parliament. So it’s not just symbolic. It’s a real problem for us. All a provincial or federal government needs to craft such an order is two signatures. A councillor and the Governor. Canada should become a Republic.
King Charles is full on Davos crows, Covid, Climate Cult pusher.
I’m pretty sure those in council that did that have no idea though and are only doing this to virtue signal “decolonization” without actually doing it.
Why doesn’t the media investigate why they did that? Put them on the spot?

Why do you guys think our elected officials should pledge allegiance to the King of England?
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#52 Mike K.

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Posted 04 November 2022 - 06:40 AM

It means a lot, if you or your family originated from a place where the leadership was truly, really bad.

The Crown has provided us with freedoms that are unimaginable across the -majority- of the world, right? It is worth fighting for to preserve this even if it’s not always rosy, in light of what’s out there. So, IMO, swearing an oath to do so is far more important than an empty gesture to swear an oath to some group or cause. And to the majority of the world, having the fortune to swear an oath to the Crown means something.

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Posted 04 November 2022 - 06:52 AM

Why do you guys think our elected officials should pledge allegiance to the King of England?

Very likely because Canada is a Parliamentary Democracy, and a Constitutional Monarchy - with the King of England as the Head of State.

 

Sorry for the reality check ... but my note above is a great example of the "real things" that guide Canada ever forward!


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Posted 04 November 2022 - 07:13 AM

I don't think most people care, one way or another. Does anyone here honestly thing Helps would have done anything differently if she had sworn to the Queen 4 years ago? Nah.



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Posted 04 November 2022 - 07:27 AM

It means a lot, if you or your family originated from a place where the leadership was truly, really bad.

 

Every day we all do and say things that we likely wouldn't otherwise because we are being thoughtful and respectful of others (ok maybe not you VW!). Costs us nothing.

 

Lets face it, if the LG was holding a shindig at her residence or a member of the Royal Family was in town for a visit these folks would all be elbowing each other to get in line for an invite. This has nothing to do with a pledge or the crown, it is all about establishing battle lines for the next 4 years. Those lines have now been drawn.


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#56 Nparker

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Posted 04 November 2022 - 07:33 AM

Agreed. Taking or not taking the pledge signals the direction each councilor intends to take. Tradition v. Woke.
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#57 Mike K.

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Posted 04 November 2022 - 07:43 AM

Every day we all do and say things that we likely wouldn't otherwise because we are being thoughtful and respectful of others (ok maybe not you VW!). Costs us nothing.

Lets face it, if the LG was holding a shindig at her residence or a member of the Royal Family was in town for a visit these folks would all be elbowing each other to get in line for an invite. This has nothing to do with a pledge or the crown, it is all about establishing battle lines for the next 4 years. Those lines have now been drawn.

Right.

It’s just respect for a long standing tradition, that made you being where you are as a politician, possible. Because average Joes tend not to become political figures in bad places.

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#58 spanky123

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Posted 04 November 2022 - 07:47 AM

It will be interesting to see how the first few COTW meetings shape up after everyone is settled in. We have 5 new councilors who will want to quickly make a name for themselves and establish a following in advance of the next Fed and Provincial elections. 



#59 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 04 November 2022 - 07:50 AM

Yes. I eagerly await the first crazy motion from a new councillor.

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#60 Nparker

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Posted 04 November 2022 - 07:50 AM

Isn't it 7 people who have never been on council before?

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