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Poll: What do you think of the report $1.2 billion Dollar sewage treatment cost. (72 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you think of the report $1.2 billion Dollar sewage treatment cost.

  1. We need it and waited too long that is the cost of waiting too long! (63 votes [23.16%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 23.16%

  2. Local, Provincial, and Federal politicians will find a way to help cut down the price to property owners. (3 votes [1.10%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.10%

  3. Out of the question, too expensive for Greater Victoria. (119 votes [43.75%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 43.75%

  4. It expensive, but if we do nothing costs will only rise. (20 votes [7.35%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.35%

  5. We need to do it but greatly scale back the project. It has grwon out of hand. (34 votes [12.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 12.50%

  6. No opinion, I do not know enough about the project to say of the costs are out of line or not. (33 votes [12.13%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 12.13%

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#5301 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 14 April 2019 - 05:51 AM

edit to remove a joke that was just too easy.


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 14 April 2019 - 05:52 AM.

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#5302 Sparky

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Posted 22 April 2019 - 05:24 AM

Can somebody help me please?

Is there a plan yet for what to do with the Class A biosolids that are about to come out of this elaborate undertaking?

There was a request for interest a while ago for proposals of how to use this product, but I'll be darned fI can find out what that might be.

#5303 slow1234

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Posted 23 April 2019 - 07:53 AM

Is there a plan yet for what to do with the Class A biosolids that are about to come out of this elaborate undertaking?

 

A plan is going to the CRD this week (item 5.4 in the agenda which can be found at https://www.crd.bc.c...04-24agenda.pdf)


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#5304 spanky123

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Posted 23 April 2019 - 08:01 AM

^ I think that this statement tells you everything you want to know.

 

Based on the need to adhere to the CRD’s “No Land Application” policy and the CCME requirements, short-term options for biosolids beneficial use are limited. Few proponents throughout the province are interested in utilizing biosolids as an alternative fuel. Those that may consider such an approach may not be able to or wish to apply the residual ash to land, as mandated by the CCME requirements.

 

In other words we are going to be paying to ship the biosolids to the mainland and then paying someone to use them. So much for the fantastic source of energy that will pay for itself.



#5305 slow1234

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Posted 23 April 2019 - 08:09 AM

In other words we are going to be paying to ship the biosolids to the mainland and then paying someone to use them. So much for the fantastic source of energy that will pay for itself.

 

I'm not the least bit surprised. Profit or net energy gain when looking at "waste as a resource" is not realistic - all "waste as a resource" can really be is an off-set.



#5306 Mike K.

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Posted 23 April 2019 - 08:15 AM

Looking at the breakdown of the CRD's waste-related income streams (within the document linked by slow1234), 4% is derived from electricity sales (3%) and the sale of recycled materials (1%).

 

The rest is mostly made up of various "tipping" fees, aka dump fees.


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#5307 spanky123

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Posted 23 April 2019 - 08:35 AM

I'm not the least bit surprised. Profit or net energy gain when looking at "waste as a resource" is not realistic - all "waste as a resource" can really be is an off-set.

 

I am sure you are right, it is not what we were told though by proponents of sewage treatment.



#5308 spanky123

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Posted 23 April 2019 - 08:35 AM

Looking at the breakdown of the CRD's waste-related income streams (within the document linked by slow1234), 4% is derived from electricity sales (3%) and the sale of recycled materials (1%).

 

The rest is mostly made up of various "tipping" fees, aka dump fees.

 

So if you back out the 4%, what is our shortfall annually?



#5309 North Shore

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Posted 23 April 2019 - 09:07 AM

tl;dr..it’s going to cost more than promised, and do less than advertised. Is that it?
Say, what's that mountain goat doing up here in the mist?

#5310 slow1234

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Posted 23 April 2019 - 09:47 AM

tl;dr..it’s going to cost more than promised, and do less than advertised. Is that it?

 

Depends upon whose advertising one buys into.  Any respectable wastewater or solid waste engineer would never claim one could make profit AND achieve net positive energy gain with waste to energy.  Some vendor salespeople would  claim otherwise though.  Unfortunately many politicians and public are swayed by vendor salespeople.



#5311 Nparker

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Posted 23 April 2019 - 09:49 AM

...Unfortunately many politicians and public are swayed by vendor salespeople.

Not surprising when dancing poo mascots have more influence than science.


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#5312 Jackerbie

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Posted 01 May 2019 - 11:45 AM

I wonder if Mr. Floatie applied for the position...

 

 

Metro Vancouver unveils pee, poo-themed mascots

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via https://bc.ctvnews.c...scots-1.4402672


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#5313 Nparker

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Posted 01 May 2019 - 01:06 PM

 

Metro Vancouver unveils pee, poo-themed mascots

We live in very strange times.



#5314 DustMagnet

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Posted 01 May 2019 - 01:29 PM

Is this cultural appropriation?  Japanese culture I mean...



#5315 laconic

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 08:04 AM

Current state of construction, along with a Harbour Air photobomb

 

 

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#5316 tjv

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 09:43 AM

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It’s unlikely the Capital Regional District’s $765-million sewage-treatment mega-project will be completed on budget...Senior governments have committed up to $459 million to the project with local taxpayers responsible for $306 million. Local taxpayers are responsible for any additional costs....the board has seen increases in the costs of material and labour, and increases related to design changes ...KWL [Consulting Engineers] is also to report on the “utility value” of project elements that have not been contracted yet to determine if all of it is necessary, he said. “As a consequence of that study we may or we may not, I don’t know, come to the conclusion that some of that infrastructure could be deferred.

https://www.timescol...runs-1.23605633

Lets also confirm that "local taxpayers" do not include Central Saanich, North Saanich, Sidney and possibly others as the Peninsula has their own sewage treatment plant

 

In addition I was forced to put in my own engineered packaged treatment plant for my house at substantial cost.  I also pay the power to run the compressors, pumps along with maintenance.  If I am forced to pay for this plant they can pay for mine



#5317 Mike K.

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:04 AM

Sooke has its own sewage treatment plant as well.

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