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[Victoria Watcher]

edit to remove a joke that was just too easy.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 14 April 2019 - 05:52 AM.

[Sparky]

Can somebody help me please?

Is there a plan yet for what to do with the Class A biosolids that are about to come out of this elaborate undertaking?

There was a request for interest a while ago for proposals of how to use this product, but I'll be darned fI can find out what that might be.

[slow1234]

Is there a plan yet for what to do with the Class A biosolids that are about to come out of this elaborate undertaking?

 

A plan is going to the CRD this week (item 5.4 in the agenda which can be found at https://www.crd.bc.c...04-24agenda.pdf)

Edited by slow1234, 23 April 2019 - 07:54 AM.

[spanky123]

^ I think that this statement tells you everything you want to know.

 

Based on the need to adhere to the CRD’s “No Land Application” policy and the CCME requirements, short-term options for biosolids beneficial use are limited. Few proponents throughout the province are interested in utilizing biosolids as an alternative fuel. Those that may consider such an approach may not be able to or wish to apply the residual ash to land, as mandated by the CCME requirements.

 

In other words we are going to be paying to ship the biosolids to the mainland and then paying someone to use them. So much for the fantastic source of energy that will pay for itself.

[slow1234]

In other words we are going to be paying to ship the biosolids to the mainland and then paying someone to use them. So much for the fantastic source of energy that will pay for itself.

 

I'm not the least bit surprised. Profit or net energy gain when looking at "waste as a resource" is not realistic - all "waste as a resource" can really be is an off-set.

[Mike K.]

Looking at the breakdown of the CRD's waste-related income streams (within the document linked by slow1234), 4% is derived from electricity sales (3%) and the sale of recycled materials (1%).

 

The rest is mostly made up of various "tipping" fees, aka dump fees.

[spanky123]

I'm not the least bit surprised. Profit or net energy gain when looking at "waste as a resource" is not realistic - all "waste as a resource" can really be is an off-set.

 

I am sure you are right, it is not what we were told though by proponents of sewage treatment.

[spanky123]

Looking at the breakdown of the CRD's waste-related income streams (within the document linked by slow1234), 4% is derived from electricity sales (3%) and the sale of recycled materials (1%).

 

The rest is mostly made up of various "tipping" fees, aka dump fees.

 

So if you back out the 4%, what is our shortfall annually?

[North Shore]

tl;dr..it’s going to cost more than promised, and do less than advertised. Is that it?

[slow1234]

tl;dr..it’s going to cost more than promised, and do less than advertised. Is that it?

 

Depends upon whose advertising one buys into.  Any respectable wastewater or solid waste engineer would never claim one could make profit AND achieve net positive energy gain with waste to energy.  Some vendor salespeople would  claim otherwise though.  Unfortunately many politicians and public are swayed by vendor salespeople.

[Nparker]

...Unfortunately many politicians and public are swayed by vendor salespeople.

Not surprising when dancing poo mascots have more influence than science.

[Jackerbie]

I wonder if Mr. Floatie applied for the position...

 

 

Metro Vancouver unveils pee, poo-themed mascots

via https://bc.ctvnews.c...scots-1.4402672

[Nparker]

 

Metro Vancouver unveils pee, poo-themed mascots

We live in very strange times.

[DustMagnet]

Is this cultural appropriation?  Japanese culture I mean...

[laconic]

Current state of construction, along with a Harbour Air photobomb

 

 

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[tjv]

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It’s unlikely the Capital Regional District’s $765-million sewage-treatment mega-project will be completed on budget...Senior governments have committed up to $459 million to the project with local taxpayers responsible for $306 million. Local taxpayers are responsible for any additional costs....the board has seen increases in the costs of material and labour, and increases related to design changes ...KWL [Consulting Engineers] is also to report on the “utility value” of project elements that have not been contracted yet to determine if all of it is necessary, he said. “As a consequence of that study we may or we may not, I don’t know, come to the conclusion that some of that infrastructure could be deferred.

https://www.timescol...runs-1.23605633

Lets also confirm that "local taxpayers" do not include Central Saanich, North Saanich, Sidney and possibly others as the Peninsula has their own sewage treatment plant

 

In addition I was forced to put in my own engineered packaged treatment plant for my house at substantial cost.  I also pay the power to run the compressors, pumps along with maintenance.  If I am forced to pay for this plant they can pay for mine

[Mike K.]

Sooke has its own sewage treatment plant as well.

[laconic]

Another view of the least photographed large construction project in greater Victoria.

 

 

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[todd]

I wonder if Mr. Floatie applied for the position...

That shits adorable. Don’t see why you need to treat that.

[Citified.ca]

808 Viewfield Road was once planned for use as a sewage biosolids facility part of the now-defunct SeaTerra Program. The parcel has been sold to a local businessman. An adjacent parcel at 836 Viewfield Road remains for sale.

 

CRD sells Esquimalt warehouse – once eyed for sewage treatment project – to Spinnakers Brew Pub

https://victoria.cit...akers-brew-pub/