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#22741 Nparker

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Posted 02 May 2021 - 09:11 AM

...you would never correct "I don't got no money".

Because this means the person does have some money. Double negatives create a positive - right?  ;)



#22742 Rob Randall

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Posted 02 May 2021 - 09:57 AM

^You don't know nothing.


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“I mean I just don’t understand the big Texas part, like maybe he’s from Texas? I want to know the back story.”


#22743 Nparker

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Posted 02 May 2021 - 10:11 AM

^You don't know nothing.

Exactly.



#22744 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 02 May 2021 - 10:17 AM

City of Victoria park homeless count:

 

220 - May 2, 2021

 

 

 

B.C. Housing estimates there are about 220 people staying overnight in the region’s parks and about 100 will be offered places to stay this week. 

 

 

https://www.timescol...arks-1.24314091

 

so 100 will be offered places this week.  that's 70 at russell (opening tormorrow) and 30 at tiny homes caledonia opening may 12.

 

where are the other 120 being offered space?


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 02 May 2021 - 10:21 AM.


#22745 Nparker

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Posted 02 May 2021 - 10:20 AM

What is meant by "region"? The City of Victoria? The core municipalities? The CRD?



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Posted 02 May 2021 - 10:26 AM

just CoV likely.  they only count during the daytime.

 

there is also a number of "300" being used in lots of media stories but not sure where that number comes from.



#22747 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 02 May 2021 - 10:30 AM

vancouver:

 

 

 

The more significant problem with the decampment plan is that the kind of housing that was offered was limited, according to York.

 

“Often what’s being offered in terms of housing is really based on assumptions that one size fits all, it’s not looking at all the various needs,” she says.

 

“There are many people with families, with children that they want to be able to see or reunite with, people want to be able to be with their community. So the no guest policy that’s prevalent right now, especially with COVID it’s very isolating. I’ve had lots of people call me and say, ‘It’s really difficult in my new place because I’m lonely.'”

 

Another issue with supportive housing options is that many have mandatory programming, so people living there are program participants and not tenants, York explains. That means they don’t have the rights and protections other renters do, furthermore, the reprogramming that is offered may not be appropriate.

 

“They don’t really have the support or the programming, or cultural programming we’ve be able to provide through the encampments,” York says.

 

“People who’ve been housed from Oppenheimer and elsewhere — not everybody’s retained their housing. The government is talking about an 80 to 90 per cent success rate but that means it’s not working for everyone. What are the reasons for that?”

 

 

 

https://www.citynews...ark-decampment/


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Posted 02 May 2021 - 10:36 AM

 

Another issue with supportive housing options is that many have mandatory programming, so people living there are program participants and not tenants, York explains. That means they don’t have the rights and protections other renters do, furthermore, the reprogramming that is offered may not be appropriate.

 

“They don’t really have the support or the programming, or cultural programming we’ve be able to provide through the encampments,” York says.

 

 

Here come the excuses! Unless it's marble countertops and in-suite laundry it's a hard pass.


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#22749 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 02 May 2021 - 10:42 AM

B.C. Housing estimates there are about 220 people staying overnight in the region’s parks and about 100 will be offered places to stay this week. With about 300 new shelter spaces opening in the coming weeks, the provincial housing agency said everyone in tents should have a place to stay.

 

 

https://www.timescol...arks-1.24314091

 

 

so not really sure what those 300 are.



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Posted 02 May 2021 - 01:16 PM

vancouver:

 

 

 

“They don’t really have the support or the programming, or cultural programming we’ve be able to provide through the encampments,” York says.

 

 

 

 

Seriously?  The lack of cultural programming is a barrier to getting out of tents and into more robust shelters?!  For crying out loud.  We've empowered these people far too much.


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Posted 02 May 2021 - 01:17 PM

...the no guest policy that’s prevalent right now, especially with COVID it’s very isolating...

I live alone and I am only allowed 2 people in my "bubble" - that's isolating. I've been told to work from home for the foreseeable future - that's isolating. Suck it up like the rest of us have had to do.


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Posted 02 May 2021 - 01:23 PM

I live alone and I am only allowed 2 people in my "bubble" - that's isolating. I've been told to work from home for the foreseeable future - that's isolating. Suck it up like the rest of us have had to do.

 

it seems to be used as an excuse both ways.

 

the excuse to live in parks and the excuse for not living in parks.


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Posted 02 May 2021 - 02:43 PM

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#22754 mbjj

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Posted 02 May 2021 - 02:48 PM

I live alone and I am only allowed 2 people in my "bubble" - that's isolating. I've been told to work from home for the foreseeable future - that's isolating. Suck it up like the rest of us have had to do.

Exactly! My former coworker also lives alone and the only person she has contact with is her elderly mother, who also lives alone. My husband and I have limited contact with our daughter, usually outdoors, so that's one other person. Talk about "beggars can't be choosers"! 


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Posted 02 May 2021 - 03:26 PM

pretty much it's a all or nothing.. they want it all locked doors, supports that are individualized to their specific wants and "needs" ability to come and go and have as many guests over as they want when they want (during covid)  or they will hold our parks hostage until they get it...

 

oh and ofcourse a workshop to fix up all those "friends bikes" that just keep breaking down since you can't do that sort of work in your unit...

 

gosh they aren't asking for much are they?


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#22756 Nparker

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Posted 02 May 2021 - 03:35 PM

.... they will hold our parks hostage until they get it...

And this is precisely the license that has been granted to them by Lisa and her merry band of misfits.


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Posted 02 May 2021 - 05:23 PM

Even if they just landed here from LA or AB. We owe them...
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Posted 02 May 2021 - 07:31 PM

“If it comes with a lock [and] key and privacy, sure! Anything less is a no for me,” said Bryan.

 

I wonder what sort of lock he has on his tent?


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Posted 02 May 2021 - 08:00 PM

City of Victoria park homeless count:

 

220 - May 2, 2021

 

where are the other 120 being offered space?

 

Beacon Hill Park.

 

I am pretty convinced that the CoV never intended to stop camping other than making it appear they were.  Spotts and Isitt are going to be liaisoning with other like minded activists to make sure this doesn't end.  I am not sure if their end game is every homeless person having a free home or if it is longer range for decolonization and banning free enterprise.


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Posted 02 May 2021 - 10:00 PM

Swung by and grabbed a shot of the interior courtyard of the Tin Can Townhouses today.

 

 

My god.  Why couldn't we have leased some work camp trailers and called it a day?  All this?  Something tells me it won't be going away.


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