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#23341 Nparker

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Posted 23 October 2021 - 07:01 PM

Stigmata!

There's some holes in your theory.



#23342 A Girl is No one

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Posted 23 October 2021 - 10:45 PM

It's about control. Keeping the masses afraid is a great way of achieving that.

Bang on!

#23343 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 29 October 2021 - 12:48 PM

The guy writing this book seems bang on with the homeless issues.


https://www.amazon.c...s/dp/0063093626

You can hear him speak on the topic here with Dave Rubin. The first 20 minutes anyway.

https://youtu.be/5DpUOLe5S_I

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#23344 JimV

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Posted 29 October 2021 - 06:42 PM

I don’t know if I could stomach actually reading the book, but the blurb seems right on - some people are considered victims who are entitled to destructive behaviours.  We certainly see a lot of that, and not just with the so-called homeless either.


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#23345 kitty surprise

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Posted 30 October 2021 - 01:40 PM

Comment: Complex care will help those with challenging needs

 

A commentary by the mayors of Saanich, Victoria, Kelowna, Richmond, Kamloops, New Westminster, Prince George, Nanaimo, Coquitlam and Vancouver.

 

We’re on the brink of winter. Some of our most vulnerable residents, with the most complex needs, are still out on our streets, even as the winds howl and the winter rains and snow will soon start to fall.

 

These residents aren’t able to live successfully in the ­existing supportive housing options. Their needs are too high. They require more support than what is currently available, making their housing retention rates low.

 

In some cases, their ­behaviour can be so disruptive that it affects other residents and puts housing staff in dangerous situations. Ultimately, this can end in an eviction and ­creates a cycle where they end up back on our streets.

 

More...

 

https://www.timescol...g-needs-4706333



#23346 Nparker

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Posted 30 October 2021 - 01:50 PM

This is only being discovered now? After years of "housing first" (and last), the powers that be are acknowledging that the one-size-fits-all policy doesn't really work?


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#23347 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 30 October 2021 - 01:54 PM

there is always another excuse for these miscreants.

 

 

 

These residents aren’t able to live successfully in the ­existing supportive housing options. Their needs are too high. They require more support than what is currently available, making their housing retention rates low.

 

In some cases, their ­behaviour can be so disruptive that it affects other residents and puts housing staff in dangerous situations. Ultimately, this can end in an eviction and ­creates a cycle where they end up back on our streets.

 

 

This critical health issue is compounded by the fact that even when people with obvious needs commit a crime — sometimes as a plea for help — they are released back into the community without any supports. 

 


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#23348 A Girl is No one

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Posted 30 October 2021 - 02:08 PM

This is only being discovered now? After years of "housing first" (and last), the powers that be are acknowledging that the one-size-fits-all policy doesn't really work?

I personally told Helps and council exactly that years ago. They didn’t listen. I wasn’t talking about my feelings or reading a crystal ball: We had clear results from other jurisdictions who were years ahead of us on that approach! Nope, we had to copy what they did, and got the exact same results. Grrr
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#23349 On the Level

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Posted 30 October 2021 - 03:33 PM

This is only being discovered now? After years of "housing first" (and last), the powers that be are acknowledging that the one-size-fits-all policy doesn't really work?


Gee...if we had only followed Lisa Helps suggestion and invited them into our homes.
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#23350 JimV

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Posted 01 November 2021 - 06:38 PM

I learned a little bit about how bylaw operates today.  Nearly every day I file a complaint about daytime campers in Irving Park.  Bylaw always responds and gets back to me but I usually miss their calls.

 

Today, however, I spoke to the officer who called.  She told me there were three tents there (two had apparently set up after I filed my complaint) but they refused to leave.  She said in those circumstances they have no power to do anything without the police present.  When the police do attend they are able to impound the camping gear and the police will arrest anyone who resists.  That is supposed to happen tomorrow, though I imagine the campers will comply rather than have their stuff seized.

 

It’s a sorry situation when police resources have to be used to enforce the compliance of these feral vagrants (aka Victoria’s most vulnerable.)  


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#23351 spanky123

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Posted 01 November 2021 - 07:14 PM

^ Getting their gear seized is not an issue, they just go to Our Place and get a new set for free. Easier than washing it when it gets dirty! 


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#23352 JimV

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Posted 02 November 2021 - 11:32 AM

Maybe so, but is at least a big inconvenience.  They’ve got their stolen bike and all their other junk.

 

Meanwhile, maybe the police did come to Irving Park today.  I drove past around noon and all tents were gone.



#23353 Awaiting Juno

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Posted 02 November 2021 - 09:43 PM

Reports that the Gorge Road Howard Johnson is on fire.



#23354 Nparker

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Posted 02 November 2021 - 10:02 PM

Reports that the Gorge Road Howard Johnson is on fire.

Any links to the story?



#23355 Mike K.

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Posted 03 November 2021 - 06:06 AM

Any further info on this fire?

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#23356 On the Level

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Posted 03 November 2021 - 06:17 AM

Any further info on this fire?

 

According to facebook, the flames were knocked down around 11 last night.  Guessing it was contained to a room.



#23357 Mike K.

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Posted 03 November 2021 - 06:21 AM

That could have turned out terribly. The B-G neighbourhood needs a break.
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#23358 spanky123

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Posted 03 November 2021 - 07:11 AM

That could have turned out terribly. The B-G neighbourhood needs a break.

 

I think it was intentional, BC Housing just wants an excuse to buy another hotel in the area!


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#23359 On the Level

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Posted 03 November 2021 - 07:29 AM

That could have turned out terribly.

 

We already knew this would happen.   We all know this will continue to happen.  Everyone knows Victoria's implementation of "housing first" is ridiculously simplistic. 

 

Helps, Isitt, Potts and Dubow went ahead anyways and the obvious has happened.....repeatedly.  

 

Helps has started to walk it back, but the others have not.  This is on them and they need to take responsibility.  

 

Next up....Potts and her incorrect version of Cahoots.  We all know it will result in dead social workers.  The blood will be on her hands.


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#23360 Mike K.

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Posted 03 November 2021 - 07:34 AM

Minneapolis voters have rejected replacing their police force.
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