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#23421 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 30 November 2021 - 03:58 PM

Victoria will provide daytime warming centres for those experiencing homelessness during extreme weather events this winter.

A lack of places where the city’s homeless could find refuge from extreme cold and wet conditions during the day was identified as a gap in the current Emergency Weather Response Plan. That strategy sees BC Housing fund service organizations to open additional overnight shelter beds when the elements pose a risk to vulnerable people’s health and safety.

“We have recognized extreme weather as a hazard that is increasing in frequency and severity, which is why we have turned our attention to it,” said Tanya Patterson, the city’s emergency program coordinator, during a Nov. 25 committee of the whole meeting.


https://www.vicnews....eather-events/#

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#23422 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 30 November 2021 - 04:04 PM

Rachel Phillips, executive director of PEERS Victoria Resource Society, estimates 100 to 200 people are living ­outside in “really unsafe ­circumstances.”

https://www.timescol...ortages-4805039





Does anyone want to bet on whether we do a PiT count this winter/spring?

We have several hundred people living in five hotels.

City centre Douglas
Hojo gorge
Ramada gorge
3020 Blanshard
Paul’s



And still another 100-200 outdoors.



I forgot about the Vic West shelter.

Back in March Helps said all the homeless would be housed.

But now we have programs for the next 100-200 that moved here to be homeless.
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#23423 Nparker

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Posted 30 November 2021 - 04:09 PM

 

We have recognized extreme weather as a hazard that is increasing in frequency and severity

BS.



#23424 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 30 November 2021 - 04:10 PM

Total bullsh*t.

But what can you do. City hires the woke.

If my figures are right, Victoria has more than double the homeless population (per capita) of the next highest location, in all of North America.

We’re #1.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 30 November 2021 - 04:14 PM.

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#23425 A Girl is No one

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Posted 30 November 2021 - 04:21 PM

Anything to do with the Red Cedar cafe job posting by any chance?

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Posted 30 November 2021 - 04:27 PM

 

“We have recognized extreme weather as a hazard that is increasing in frequency and severity..."

"The goal of the centres is to prevent injury or death caused by exposure to the elements."

"Some councillors were concerned about what happens to vulnerable people when weather events don’t quite meet the activation benchmark..."

 

"Unexpected" extreme weather impacting the homeless has been a template news story for many decades. A cold/wet winter should never be unexpected, ever. Not even one time. So when we're supposed to believe yet another cold/wet winter has shocked the experts and caught the support services completely off guard for the umpteenth year in a row, it might be time to start scrutinizing the narratives a little more closely.


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#23427 Sparky

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Posted 30 November 2021 - 04:40 PM

^ The other narrative that needs to be checked at the door is the word vulnerable.

The “street sleepers” that I have come in contact with appear to be among the most resilient human beings on the planet. Most of these people are tougher than most of us will ever be.

The word vulnerable is a sales gimmick.

If a person is truly vulnerable… go get ‘em and cart them off out of harm’s way.

Quit coining a phrase to justify buying another hotel.
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#23428 Nparker

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Posted 30 November 2021 - 04:46 PM

Well said Sparky.


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#23429 A Girl is No one

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Posted 30 November 2021 - 05:45 PM

So we spent tens of millions of $ in Victoria alone this year via BC Housing to house everyone of them, and now we have to create more room? Does this warrant a complaint to BC Housing for poor planning/execution? We didn’t even get 9 months out of these new housing purchases.
Is it fair to ask for accountability from BC Housing, say asking for the utilization rate of these supportive housing units?
A proper city council would ask these questions to BC Housing before spending yet more tax payer money on leaky bandaids.
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#23430 Nparker

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Posted 30 November 2021 - 05:50 PM

...Is it fair to ask for accountability from BC Housing...

It's fair to ask, but don't expect to get a straight answer.


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#23431 Klapecki

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Posted 30 November 2021 - 06:42 PM

Maybe Stephen Andrew will make it an election promise to find out.

It's fair to ask, but don't expect to get a straight answer.


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#23432 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 03 December 2021 - 05:49 PM

The Salvation Army Addictions and Rehabilitation Centre in downtown Victoria will have 30 overnight emergency-weather mats available to the city’s vulnerable population on Friday (Dec. 3).

An Extreme Weather Alert was issued in the morning due to the forecast potential for snow and near or below-freezing temperatures, according to the Greater Victoria Coalition to End Homelessness. A post will be made when the weather alert is cancelled.


https://www.vicnews....ures-forecast/#




Can the city explain why we have vulnerable people living outside when every single one was offered indoor space last summer?

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 03 December 2021 - 05:50 PM.

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#23433 Nparker

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Posted 03 December 2021 - 06:18 PM

...Can the city explain why we have vulnerable people living outside when every single one was offered indoor space last summer?

Logic does not apply where the "vulnerable" population is concerned.



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Posted 05 December 2021 - 05:22 AM

Coun. Stephen Andrew brought forward a motion to councillors Thursday recommending that the city explore the feasibility of prohibiting sheltering in Irving Park. The park, at the corner of Menzies and Michigan streets, has a playground and is next to a seniors centre.

Andrew said he’s hearing from residents close to the park who are worried “about some of the social issues around the park and concerned for their safety.”

Sheltering is currently allowed in the park from 7 p.m. to 7 a.m., but residents say some tents remain beyond 7 a.m., and they’re wondering why a bylaw requiring people to pack up in the morning isn’t being enforced, Andrew said.


https://www.timescol...ng-list-4831229

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 05 December 2021 - 05:23 AM.


#23435 A Girl is No one

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Posted 05 December 2021 - 07:51 AM

This is good, but the same issues are felt in every park where sheltering is allowed. I wish he would push to enforce the no sheltering in parks if there is a shelter bed available anywhere.
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#23436 Nparker

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Posted 05 December 2021 - 08:08 AM

...I wish he would push to enforce the no sheltering in parks if there is a shelter bed available...

After all, this was what courts ruled.


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#23437 kitty surprise

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Posted 05 December 2021 - 08:12 AM

I don't see the problem. They were all provided housing. Get Bylaw out there to help them back to their housing. Done.

Edited by kitty surprise, 05 December 2021 - 08:13 AM.


#23438 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 05 December 2021 - 08:13 AM

The article says there is a disagreement as to whether shelter spaces are available.

And/or the very worst of the worst are sleeping in parks.




Andrew suggested there are people who have access to an inside space but don’t sleep there.

“We know, speaking to the providers who are doing this work, there is a significant number of people who are choosing not to avail themselves of the shelter spaces,” he said.

Helps disagreed with the notion that there is enough space inside for everyone who is unhoused in the city, saying she speaks to shelter providers regularly.

“Everything is full. There is nowhere to be inside at night, but maybe that will change by the next triannual update.”

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Grant McKenzie, communications director for Our Place Society, said because the province and city have housed hundreds of people during the pandemic, those who remain outside tend to be people with the most complex needs who are hardest to house.





Publish the damn nightly counts! And surprise audit them too. Where is the accountability?

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 05 December 2021 - 08:16 AM.

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#23439 Nparker

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Posted 05 December 2021 - 08:29 AM

...Helps disagreed with the notion that there is enough space inside for everyone who is unhoused in the city, saying she speaks to shelter providers regularly. “Everything is full. There is nowhere to be inside at night...

How this repulsive woman lives with herself boggles my mind.


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#23440 kitty surprise

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Posted 05 December 2021 - 08:32 AM

^
Because auditing them would reveal how politicians are enriching themselves and their friends and that would be problematic.
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