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#23521 Mike K.

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Posted 11 January 2022 - 01:58 PM

It is a bit odd, to see the mayor represent this group of mayors.

 

It's pretty bewildering, from the 'bring it on' mayor.


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Posted 11 January 2022 - 02:05 PM

It is a bit odd, to see the mayor represent this group of mayors. It's pretty bewildering, from the 'bring it on' mayor.

She's always been a hypocrite though, so this isn't really anything too shocking. Remember "I'd take a homeless person into my house, if it weren't for all those important papers lying around".  :whyme:


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#23523 Mike K.

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Posted 11 January 2022 - 02:21 PM

Ah, the important papers.


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Posted 11 January 2022 - 02:34 PM

It is a bit odd, to see the mayor represent this group of mayors.

 

It's pretty bewildering, from the 'bring it on' mayor.

 

Not at all, she isn't saying that her policies have made matter worse, she is just wanting more money and more power.


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Posted 11 January 2022 - 07:48 PM

Now if only all these mayors could get together with the provincial govt. and put all their money together and build a nice big secure facility where all those "hard to house" folks could go to get treatment and keep them safe.


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#23526 Dexter

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Posted 11 January 2022 - 08:45 PM

20:1 she ends up at a non profit social housing organization

Helps preparing her next career…
She always knew her policies brought mayhem to the city…


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Posted 11 January 2022 - 08:48 PM

Now if only all these mayors could get together with the provincial govt. and put all their money together and build a nice big secure facility where all those "hard to house" folks could go to get treatment and keep them safe.

Something like this perhaps.


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#23528 Nparker

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Posted 11 January 2022 - 08:51 PM

...she ends up at a non profit social housing

She deserves to be sentenced to one for what she has done to the CoV since becoming mayor. 844 Johnson Street might be a good fit.


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#23529 Midnightly

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Posted 12 January 2022 - 04:18 AM

Helps preparing her next career…
She always knew her policies brought mayhem to the city…

but she said "just one more hotel.. just one more hotel and we'll solve homelessness in this city!"... they got the hotel... we still have homelessness and now she's complaining about how it's suddenly all unmanageable how we're at a breaking point... haven't we the public been telling her this for years... BEFORE she welcomed 24/7 tenting in all the parks in Victoria, before all the hotels were purchased... but ohh no we couldn't have predicted this


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#23530 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 January 2022 - 04:36 AM

Yes. One more hotel. We let them run rampant and buy 8 hotels and other facilities and we still have people camping on Pandora and in parks. There are more homeless facilities along Douglas and Blanshard now than there are hotels.

Victoria has more homeless people per capital than any other city in North America.

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#23531 North Shore

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Posted 12 January 2022 - 11:01 AM

^Per capita, surely?

 

Source?  (Not disputing your assertion - just want to read more...)


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#23532 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 January 2022 - 11:19 AM

Capita yes!

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Posted 12 January 2022 - 11:45 AM

although spelling is a problem... i have decided to start calling the CoV the  "Crapital City"


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#23534 Nparker

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Posted 12 January 2022 - 11:46 AM

...i have decided to start calling the CoV the  "Crapital City"

Her Worseship will be pleased.


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Posted 12 January 2022 - 11:59 AM

^ Well Helps has gone from "open up your homes to the homeless" and "housing first" to this.   That is a positive step, although it was totally avoidable.  What is missing from the article is what she is proposing.  I expect we will need to wade our way through more enablement (free drugs, etc.) to finally see it isn't working, then to have this group faced with difficult decisions that they should have made to begin with.  I'd give it another year until that happens.

 

 

“Residents with complex needs have overlapping mental health, substance use, trauma and acquired brain injuries and they are often left to experience homelessness,” the mayors said. “They do not fit into current supportive housing models


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#23536 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 January 2022 - 12:03 PM

You mean to say at least a few hundred of the thousands we have (temporarily) housed have not "stabilized" and moved on to market housing?  Surely all those hotels are not still full (?)


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Posted 12 January 2022 - 12:19 PM

I have said this before but the feedback I have received time and time again from doing PIT interviews is that what the homeless want is their own place with no rules. I have not come across a single person who has said please commit me to an institution and force me to take my meds, clean up and get better. Since the supreme court has said that we cannot involuntarily commit people I don't see any improvement unless the court changes its mind.  Now you could help that decision along by pulling their taxpayer funded private security and personal drivers so that they can experience the impact of their actions like the rest of us.

 

In the mean time the sole purpose of these motions is to allow Helps to blame the problem on someone else. Next time someone asks about Victoria being a cesspool she will simply respond that she has asked the Province to deal with it and they haven't.


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Posted 12 January 2022 - 12:35 PM


Victoria has more homeless people per capita than any other city in North America.

Do you have a source for this? Exact numbers per capita seem hard to find. Count systems and who is counted as a homless person seems to vary. as well as the definition of the city region.



#23539 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 January 2022 - 12:37 PM

Well there are thousands of other cities. Put up your best candidate. I’ll show you we are higher.

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#23540 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 12 January 2022 - 01:03 PM

I’ll start here. Victoria has about 92,000 residents. I believe we have at least 2,000 homeless. Living on the streets or in shelters like 844 Johnson, 3020 Blanshard, 1961 Douglas, Our Place, Russel Street or Rock Bay landing.

So well over 2%. So over 2000 per 100,000 population.

I believe you will find no city even close.



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Edited by Victoria Watcher, 12 January 2022 - 01:11 PM.

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