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#161 lanforod

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 07:47 AM

We want a Pier 39 type atmosphere here, don't we?



#162 Nparker

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 07:49 AM

I'd certainly like to see something other than just grassy spaces that are water-logged half the year, or even nicely paved surfaces that do nothing to actually enliven the area.


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#163 aastra

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Posted 17 September 2018 - 09:36 AM

I much prefer concepts such as that, which effectively create broad decks/porches extending from the Wharf Street sidewalk toward the harbour (thus availing sightseers of views that they otherwise wouldn't have, closer to the action and more elevated than the current parking lots). I still think you need a decent cafe space on the top running part of the way along Wharf St., either 1 or 2 stories tall, ideally with rooftop access.

 

The terraced slope concepts make me think of riverfront cities deep in the heartland. I'm not saying it couldn't work, but at first blush it always strikes me as being very un-Victorian.


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#164 Jackerbie

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 11:34 AM

Soil remediation at Laurel Point starts next week, and will continue through 2019. The project page is here: https://www.victoria...on-project.html



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Posted 05 October 2018 - 11:56 AM

Old man Pendray dumped a lot of crap through the holes in the BAPCO factory floor (directly into the harbour below).

 

Rumour has it that there's 5 to 6 feet of solid "goo" on the bottom of the harbour under what was the BAPCO factory floor, with none of that DuPont "goo" having anything to do with the natural marine environment.

 

Here's what's down there:

  • Alkyds
  • Organic pigments
  • Titanium Dioxide
  • Diatomacious Silica
  • Calcium Carbonate
  • Talc
  • Zinc Oxide
  • Paint Thinner
  • Lacquer Thinner
  • Xylene
  • Toluene
  • Linseed Oil
  • Resin Solids

....... that's just to start, and doesn't include whatever crap he dumped into the harbour associated with his soap making endeavor, which took place in the same building.


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#166 Jackerbie

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 11:59 AM

  • Alkyds
  • Organic pigments
  • Titanium Dioxide
  • Diatomacious Silica
  • Calcium Carbonate
  • Talc
  • Zinc Oxide
  • Paint Thinner
  • Lacquer Thinner
  • Xylene
  • Toluene
  • Linseed Oil
  • Resin Solids

 

"Goo" is a whole lot easier to spell and pronounce so let's go with that :)


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#167 AllseeingEye

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 12:42 PM

Old man Pendray dumped a lot of crap through the holes in the BAPCO factory floor (directly into the harbour below).

 

Rumour has it that there's 5 to 6 feet of solid "goo" on the bottom of the harbour under what was the BAPCO factory floor, with none of that DuPont "goo" having anything to do with the natural marine environment.

 

Here's what's down there:

  • Alkyds
  • Organic pigments
  • Titanium Dioxide
  • Diatomacious Silica
  • Calcium Carbonate
  • Talc
  • Zinc Oxide
  • Paint Thinner
  • Lacquer Thinner
  • Xylene
  • Toluene
  • Linseed Oil
  • Resin Solids

....... that's just to start, and doesn't include whatever crap he dumped into the harbour associated with his soap making endeavor, which took place in the same building.

And yet in true Victoria fashion there is already a local group which has emerged protesting the clean up because it will impact the waterfront park. In light of the plethora of industrial poisons spewed into the marine ecosystem literally with impunity decade upon decade, spending a few million bucks to clean it up - in addition to temporarily disrupting pubic access to the park - seems like a damn small price to pay.


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#168 Nparker

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 12:56 PM

And yet in true Victoria fashion there is already a local group which has emerged protesting the clean up because it will impact the waterfront park...

You are aware of the severe shortage of waterfront park space in the region right? /s  <_<


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#169 Jackerbie

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 01:15 PM

And yet in true Victoria fashion there is already a local group which has emerged protesting the clean up because it will impact the waterfront park. In light of the plethora of industrial poisons spewed into the marine ecosystem literally with impunity decade upon decade, spending a few million bucks to clean it up - in addition to temporarily disrupting pubic access to the park - seems like a damn small price to pay.

 

Heritage goo


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#170 Nparker

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 01:17 PM

Heritage Goo

Are playing at the Tinto Rocks Festival in 2019.


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#171 Cassidy

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 03:02 PM

And yet in true Victoria fashion there is already a local group which has emerged protesting the clean up because it will impact the waterfront park.

The BAPCO factory was situated well over top of that entire green space as well (it was pretty much situated over ALL of what's now called Laurel Point).

If these protesters do even just a hint of research, they will quickly discover that the ground in that park is almost as polluted as the "goo" they're about to dredge out of the harbour.

 

Dig down 2 or 3 feet in that park and I'll bet you a beer that you that you'd start smelling a funny smell ... faint at first, but much stronger with each foot deeper you dig.

 

Some folks prone to protesting might forget that in the era that the Laurel Point Hotel was built in (mid '70's) "soil remediation" wasn't quite as serious a business as it is in 2018. The hotel was pretty much stuck on top of what was left when they tore the paint factory down ... so there's still lots of cool chemicals and poisons to discover on dry land as well as in the harbour.



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Posted 05 October 2018 - 05:51 PM

The BAPCO factory was situated well over top of that entire green space as well (it was pretty much situated over ALL of what's now called Laurel Point).

If these protesters do even just a hint of research, they will quickly discover that the ground in that park is almost as polluted as the "goo" they're about to dredge out of the harbour.

 

Dig down 2 or 3 feet in that park and I'll bet you a beer that you that you'd start smelling a funny smell ... faint at first, but much stronger with each foot deeper you dig.

 

Some folks prone to protesting might forget that in the era that the Laurel Point Hotel was built in (mid '70's) "soil remediation" wasn't quite as serious a business as it is in 2018. The hotel was pretty much stuck on top of what was left when they tore the paint factory down ... so there's still lots of cool chemicals and poisons to discover on dry land as well as in the harbour.

Yup....between Bapco and the old Vic Plywood operation on the upper harbour the entire harbour - inner, middle and upper - was a toxic soup of foulness people today can't begin to fathom. These protesters and the ones against virtually every harbour development since, make me laugh especially when they pine for "the good old days". Sure by all means - if utter crapulent industrial effluent is your thing.....


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#173 Cassidy

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 06:05 PM

And don't forget massive and equally foul VMD in the Outer Harbour just for good measure!

 

We've not even mentioned the dozen small sawmills and other industrial undertakings scattered around the rest of the Outer, Inner, and Upper Harbour.

 

Toxic soup central:

 

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#174 Bingo

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Posted 05 October 2018 - 06:20 PM

The BAPCO factory was situated well over top of that entire green space as well (it was pretty much situated over ALL of what's now called Laurel Point).

If these protesters do even just a hint of research, they will quickly discover that the ground in that park is almost as polluted as the "goo" they're about to dredge out of the harbour.

 

Dig down 2 or 3 feet in that park and I'll bet you a beer that you that you'd start smelling a funny smell ... faint at first, but much stronger with each foot deeper you dig.

 

Some folks prone to protesting might forget that in the era that the Laurel Point Hotel was built in (mid '70's) "soil remediation" wasn't quite as serious a business as it is in 2018. The hotel was pretty much stuck on top of what was left when they tore the paint factory down ... so there's still lots of cool chemicals and poisons to discover on dry land as well as in the harbour.

 

They have already dredged the harbour at Laurel Point to the tune of $5,344,000 back in December 2017.

See post #220 here. https://vibrantvicto...-issues/page-11

 

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#175 laconic

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Posted 19 October 2018 - 08:22 AM

They have cleared away the trees at the Laurel Point remediation site. The Laurel Point Inn is taking this time to redo their lobby and kitchen.

 

 

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#176 laconic

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Posted 25 April 2019 - 09:36 AM

The ship point dock is being paved today. That puts it close to re-opening.



#177 laconic

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Posted 15 June 2019 - 09:02 AM

Yacht Formosa. Weekly charter is $600,000 CDN.

 

It was recently in the news for damaging a reef in Hawaii

 

https://www.yachting...coral-reef.html

 

It is 61 meters long. For comparison, the Coho is 105. The Elisa, currently moored off the Wharf Street dock is 46 meters.

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#178 Nparker

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Posted 15 June 2019 - 09:49 AM

I bet vessels like this cause Ben to die a little inside each time he sees them. Can we please get a lot more of them to visit?


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