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[Victoria Watcher]

Our museum attracts 900,000 per year.

This one lighthouse attracts almost as much:

One idea brought forward was to close the iconic site that attracts over 700,000 people a year and features a much-photographed lighthouse on a large outcrop of granite, one with tantalizing but slippery "black rocks" that descend to the water's edge.

https://www.cbc.ca/n...uards-1.6456001

Therefore I propose, before the museum closes, let’s build a lighthouse at Clover Point or at the end of Cook Street.

$4 million should do it.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 22 May 2022 - 04:55 AM.

[JimV]

Good article that raises a lot of valid points.  The latest in a chain of giant missteps and mistakes the museum has made.  At the very least it’s time to fire the board and senior staff and start over.

[Nparker]

...The latest in a chain of giant missteps and mistakes the museum NDP has made. ...

I think this is probably the more correct statement.

[dasmo]

The museum doesn’t bring that many people here…. Many locals visit it, many school trips etc. People who are traveling here visit it but I doubt many make a special trip just to visit the museum.

Old town was one of my favourite parts next to the First Nations section. They could just bring back out all those letters and articles from the latter to put back on display the time when things went sour between us. It’s all there and quite stark. Some of the newspaper articles describing the First Nations are super harsh. The photos of First Nations all in top hats and frowns were also quite symbolic. It’s worthy to put it out there and to acknowledge it. It’s just very embarrassing to our monarchist government. They are doing their best to push the guilt onto us, the second people. I’m not accepting it. I would like to live more arm in arm with our brothers who stewarded this land before us. Guilt isn’t the way forward especially for something we are not responsible for.

I used to both sit in the theatre and the train station along with the long house and let my imagination take me to these worlds.

This is yet another example of these people ruling by decree and putting it in our faces.

I’m not passionate enough and am more interested in getting my garden going but I hope someone is going to sue and or launch a recall campaign.

I would also like to see some legislation that states any project over a certain value has some sort of referendum. This is our money after all. Actually our children’s Children’s money.

[spanky123]

^ As someone was has visited many of the great museums of the world I would have to agree with you. Other than perhaps visitors from Duncan, I have never heard of anyone claim that they came to Victoria to visit the RCBM! 

 

I think it is a great little museum but I think you would be hard pressed to find anyone knowledgeable that would rank it in the top 100 globally.

[spanky123]

The actual business case was 5 years in development. A weekend isn’t going to change anything
 

 

If a business case had been developed it would have been released when they made the announcement or on Friday when they said it would be.

[Nparker]

...I think you would be hard pressed to find anyone knowledgeable that would rank it in the top 100 globally.

$1 billion dollars and 7 years of closure is going to change that! 

[Dexter]

The business case was developed for submission to the treasury board. This is extremely out of the ordinary for it to be presented to the public.

If a business case had been developed it would have been released when they made the announcement or on Friday when they said it would be.

[JimV]

The business case was developed for submission to the treasury board. This is extremely out of the ordinary for it to be presented to the public.
 

Seems odd to me that the whole giant announcement would be made prior to approval by treasury board.  If it was approved then there should be no problem in releasing it to the public, with perhaps a few redactions for privacy reasons.  If it was not approved then we have a cart/horse situation here.

 

One also can’t help but notice the deafening silence of our MLA, the Amazing Invisible Woman Grace Lore.  Not, of course, that she has ever commented on any issue of concern to her constituents.

[spanky123]

^ Yeah crazy. She is the MLA for Victoria but has nothing to say and is nowhere to be found.

[dasmo]

My constituency office is currently closed due to current events.

My office is still committed to assisting constituents.

You can get support from my staff by calling  (250) 952-4211

or emailing grace.lore.MLA@leg.bc.ca

[spanky123]

^ Are all MLA offices closed?

[Nparker]

My constituency office is currently closed due to current events....

If the current event is Victoria Day this is acceptable, anything else and a recall campaign should commence.

[Barrrister]

The current event is  great salary and pension while doing next to nothing.

[mbjj]

^ As someone was has visited many of the great museums of the world I would have to agree with you. Other than perhaps visitors from Duncan, I have never heard of anyone claim that they came to Victoria to visit the RCBM! 

 

I think it is a great little museum but I think you would be hard pressed to find anyone knowledgeable that would rank it in the top 100 globally.

A couple of years ago we visited the Museum of London Docklands. Much of it reminded me of the Old Town in the RBCM. Haven't been to too many museums that had great recreations of rooms etc. like our museum or the Docklands museum, and we've visited quite a few around Europe. Most like the Louvre or the Hermitage are just rooms full of stuff, very little in the way of recreations, except for the castle walls in the basement of the Louvre. Museum of London is also good with some recreations, but I think our museum did a pretty good job actually. Also I think someone mentioned digitizing records. That is an extremely labour-intensive, onerous task requiring a lot of staff and specialized equipment. This is how Find My Past digitized the 1921 UK census. Basically every page of every document has to be examined and "photographed".   https://www.google.c...y70PEPjbaDmAc15

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[mbjj]

Those photos are from the Museum of London Docklands. 

[Nparker]

Those photos are from the Museum of London Docklands. 

Do the descendents of the Druids complain that the Museum of London is too Anglo-Saxon?

[Barrrister]

lets not leave out the Normans.

[JimV]

I don’t think Jeff Bray did himself any favours with his “Oh, thank you, thank you, Mr. Premier for building another museum in the same spot in 8 or 10 years.”  My opinion of him dropped considerably after hearing that.

[someguywhoknowssomething]

Seems odd to me that the whole giant announcement would be made prior to approval by treasury board.  If it was approved then there should be no problem in releasing it to the public, with perhaps a few redactions for privacy reasons.  If it was not approved then we have a cart/horse situation here.

 

One also can’t help but notice the deafening silence of our MLA, the Amazing Invisible Woman Grace Lore.  Not, of course, that she has ever commented on any issue of concern to her constituents.

Didn't they say It was approved by Treasury Board in March?  My guess is they are busy doing redactions of all the cheaper options laid out in that business plan.  This NDP government loves paying their union friends with our tax dollars and hate private sector operators so my guess is there were some very economical private sector solutions available.  If you look at the size of the site and also take into consideration they are also moving the archives out to royal bay, seems to me there's lot of space to build more than just a new museum there.