1080 replies to this topic

[spanky123]

Yes, it’s important we right those 1452 documents.

 

I think the issue is that many bands were conquered in battle by the Europeans and their land seized on that basis (as opposed to any sort of treaty). What they are trying to do now is have the laws of conquest and discovery rescinded so that they can initiate land claims over what they lost.

Edited by spanky123, 10 September 2022 - 09:34 AM.

[Nparker]

...What they are trying to do now is have the laws of conquest and discovery rescinded so that they can initiate land claims over what they lost.

Perhaps all the European nations should do the same. We can get WWIII going in no time.

[dasmo]

That makes it sound like warriors landed on these shores and there was a great battle that the nation here lost and the victors then moved in. I haven’t heard that version before.

[Nparker]

I am sure you will.

[spanky123]

That makes it sound like warriors landed on these shores and there was a great battle that the nation here lost and the victors then moved in. I haven’t heard that version before.

 

Need to check your Canadian history. 

 

While it may be true that most of the land in BC was negotiated via treaty, that is certainly not the case as you move East. Many FN fought against the crown/country alongside the French or Americans or rebelled and were defeated. 

[dasmo]

Most of BC has no treaties at all.

[spanky123]

Most of BC has no treaties at all.

 

Much of BC has treaties that FN are now disputing.

Edited by spanky123, 10 September 2022 - 11:30 AM.

[dasmo]

Can you show me?

[spanky123]

[dasmo]

What is that? There is no key.

[dasmo]

Anyway, there were only two historical treaties signed here in BC which cover almost no land. But I’m curious what the map represents. I’m not well versed on the current state of things.

[spanky123]

Red areas are areas covered by treaty.

[Victoria Watcher]

The 2021 census also found that 3.2 per cent of Indigenous children in Canada were in foster care compared to just 0.2 per cent of non-Indigenous children in Canada.

In total, Indigenous children accounted for more than half of all children in foster care, at 53.8 per cent, despite representing only 7.7 per cent of children 14 and under in Canada.

https://www.cbc.ca/n...tscan-1.6589825

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 21 September 2022 - 05:23 AM.

[Victoria Watcher]

Near the northern tip of Vancouver Island, the Quatsino First Nation is home to an area rich in natural beauty, with inlets, wildlife and a reliance on the land that Indigenous families have carved a way of life from for generations.

But there is a gaping hole there too, that haunts people to this day.

“It killed the beach in front of our village,” said Quatsino First Nation Chief Tom Nelson.

The Island Copper Mine cut so deep into the land in Quatsino First Nation territory, that the open pit mine became the lowest man-made place in the world when it operated there between 1971 and 1995.

https://www.cheknews...nation-1093895/

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 21 September 2022 - 05:25 AM.

[Mike K.]

It’s right here:
https://maps.app.goo...GAR5759?g_st=ic

[dasmo]

Brutal. Not the mine itself but destroying all around it.

[Victoria Watcher]

 

 

[dasmo]

Look at all that space! All the more reason not to decimate the area around it. Did they really need to dump the rock in the inlet? No. It was just easy and their was no respect for the area. It reminds me of the century of logging where they just burned the ancient cedars. They were in the way of the fir.

[Victoria Watcher]

Look at all that space! All the more reason not to decimate the area around it. Did they really need to dump the rock in the inlet? No. It was just easy and their was no respect for the area. It reminds me of the century of logging where they just burned the ancient cedars. They were in the way of the fir.

 

A mine must be efficient, or it won't be economical to run.  So a mine can't just be where the mineral they seek is, but near to a way to transport it away. 

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 21 September 2022 - 07:20 AM.

[Mike K.]

Loggers would burn ancient cedars? Are you sure they didn't cut them down, to sell the timber?