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[Nparker]

And by hotel they mean future homeless shelter?

[Mike K.]

Does this mean Salient purchased the building from Reliance?

[Dexter]

Yes. A few months ago. About the time Reliance did the Capital Iron deal, which was announced much later.

Edited by Klapecki, 14 June 2020 - 12:46 PM.

[aastra]

Speaking of modern additions to old buildings, have we ever talked about this project at Royal Roads?

[Rob Randall]

^Amazing--I had no idea.

 

Meanwhile, Nickel Brothers wants to unload 2526 Government, a classic Queen Anne-style heritage house, one of a handful of Victorian-era homes on the fringe of Downtown. Once the house is gone, I do not know what is supposed to replace it.

 

 

https://www.nickelbr...afXGd4ZNFHhrHhY

Edited by Rob Randall, 25 June 2020 - 08:59 PM.

[Redd42]

Interesting since it looks like there is a more recent addition on the back. Would think the back wall of the original house wouldn't still be there? Or at least would be greatly altered?

 

And the addition will be demoed?

[todd]

When did they change the picket fence to barbed wire?

[Rob Randall]

 

[Rob Randall]

Here is more on the history of the building:

 

http://www.burnsideg...6-government-st

 

Over a dozen small businesses were located there. Have any of you been inside?

[aastra]

 

When did they change the picket fence to barbed wire?

 

Nothing indicates community improvement quite like tall fences and barbed wire. Victoria has improved so much in recent years.

[aastra]

Even considering how little is left, that could still be a great strip if the parking lots were redeveloped well. Victorians really can be a frustrating bunch re: their attitudes about their own city.

 

Anyway, that beautiful old house will likely end up being some other city's gain (some other city or town that actually appreciates such things). Remind me, the CoV still has no program to incentivize the relocation of such buildings within Greater Victoria, right?

 

Sigh.

[Jackerbie]

Interesting since it looks like there is a more recent addition on the back. Would think the back wall of the original house wouldn't still be there? Or at least would be greatly altered?

 

And the addition will be demoed?

 

There's a demo permit in with the city for a two-storey warehouse/offices building, which I assume would be the addition

[Victoria Watcher]

Here is more on the history of the building:

 

http://www.burnsideg...6-government-st

 

Over a dozen small businesses were located there. Have any of you been inside?

 

a bit like this building at 2722 fifth that has from time to time had just about every business in it.

 

[Mike K.]

Oh yeah, that place!

[Spy Black]

There's a demo permit in with the city for a two-storey warehouse/offices building, which I assume would be the addition

The demo permit is for the entire house.

If they can't find a buyer, who obviously would have to own vacant land in the Capital Region as well as fork over the $140,000.00 for the house - they will simply tear the entire structure down.

 

The house isn't on any heritage registers with the COV, and thus has no protection at all.

[Rob Randall]

Good Lord, I would hope that if there were no buyers at $140,000 they would reduce the price to zero plus moving costs. 

[aastra]

 

...I would hope that if there were no buyers at $140,000 they would reduce the price to zero plus moving costs.

 

Victoria can be such a fraud of a place. Weren't we just talking about a lot on Caledonia where such a house would fit beautifully? Wasn't there another development on Caledonia near Quadra that was struggling to find its identity? Isn't a big chunk of Vic High property going to be redeveloped? Why doesn't the CoV give new developments a big perk for relocating old houses and buildings within Victoria? This is respecting heritage 101, and yet somehow the city's heritage heroes have never thought of it over the past how many decades? Not believable.

[Mike K.]

Old houses need to be maintained, and they’re atrociously expensive to maintain. It’s nice to see them all prettied up but someone has to make it happen and have deep enough pockets to make it happen.

[Victoria Watcher]

and to retrofit with proper plumbing electrical and heating/cooling systems.  and then to start with they might not have the right floor plans for what you want to use them for.  

 

this was 12 offices.  and probably one or two washrooms.  that's a problem when finding a new use for it like an apartment building with 6 or 8 bathrooms.

 

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Edited by Victoria Watcher, 27 June 2020 - 11:49 AM.

[aastra]

 

Old houses need to be maintained, and they’re atrociously expensive to maintain. It’s nice to see them all prettied up but someone has to make it happen and have deep enough pockets to make it happen.

 

Dude, new houses also need to be maintained. They aren't new forever. Are you running for council or something?

 

EVERY other city can do this stuff. Other cities and towns are having Victoria's old houses shipped over! Only Victoria cannot do it. And yet Victoria devotes more effort to proclaiming and celebrating its commitment than any other place. What's wrong with this picture?