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Hmmm, 58 meters is very tall by Victoria standards. IIRC, Orchard House and Promontory are in the 60ish meter range.
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[Downtown Victoria] Gateway Green | Office | 58m | 15-storeys | Approved
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Posted 11 October 2016 - 12:10 PM
Hmmm, 58 meters is very tall by Victoria standards. IIRC, Orchard House and Promontory are in the 60ish meter range.
What is IIRC?
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Posted 11 October 2016 - 12:21 PM
What is IIRC?
If I recall correctly...("IIRC")
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Posted 11 October 2016 - 01:00 PM
What is IIRC?
Lol.
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Posted 11 October 2016 - 01:01 PM
If I recall correctly...("IIRC")
A couple of the oldest guys on here know it.
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Posted 11 October 2016 - 01:04 PM
A couple of the oldest guys on here know it.
Like me! 
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Posted 11 October 2016 - 01:16 PM
Yeah, they'll be able to go as high as 17-18-storeys, easy. Maybe even more.
Considering the way the Hudson District is building out it's paid off to wait so far.
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Posted 26 June 2017 - 02:13 PM
I walked by this site for the first time in quite a while yesterday, and I noticed that the "Gateway Green" banner is still hanging on the outside of the existing structure.
Are there any plans to revive this proposal (possibly in modified form)?
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Posted 26 June 2017 - 02:25 PM
Exactly ten years ago it was in the middle of the approvals process. It had just pass CotW and APC and was due before Advisory Design Panel the following week.
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Posted 26 June 2017 - 02:34 PM
The thrift store that operated in the existing building has vacated its space.
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Posted 27 June 2017 - 04:29 PM
The banner now has heritage status.
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Posted 27 June 2017 - 05:15 PM
That's noteworthy. For how long does an approved development need to be pending before the limbo state itself becomes eligible for heritage designation?
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Posted 27 June 2017 - 10:34 PM
^ Probably quite some time, otherwise we'd have a lot of heritage holes around the CRD. Very surprised that Townline didn't run in to that issue!
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Posted 11 August 2017 - 10:42 AM
Now this site is for sale... perhaps the Jawls will buy it and turn it into something great.
See http://www.colliersc...30#.WY351MtrZCo
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Posted 11 August 2017 - 10:54 AM
10 years:
At this morning's Committee of the Whole meeting they voted to send this project to development permit with only Mayor Lowe voting against, saying again that it is too high and too dense for the site.
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Posted 11 August 2017 - 10:56 AM
Assessed 2017 value of just below $4-million, and the parcel is priced at $9.5-million.
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Posted 11 August 2017 - 10:57 AM
Now this site is for sale... perhaps the Jawls will buy it and turn it into something great.
Of course any project proposed for this site now will have to involve the preservation of the heritage banner/building wrap.
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Posted 11 August 2017 - 11:35 AM
10 years:
Too high and too dense. Woooooo boy did Alan Lowe miss the mark on where this city was headed.
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Posted 11 August 2017 - 11:51 AM
Too high and too dense. Woooooo boy did Alan Lowe miss the mark on where this city was headed.
Yeah, he really hated where height was going in that era and was angry at people he thought were "rubber stamping" height variations. A warning to you Helps Haters who think a "business candidate" is a guaranteed solution to your woes.
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Posted 11 August 2017 - 12:03 PM
Meh, we've just barely eclipsed building heights from the Lowe era. Back then he approved the City's tallest tower at 24-storeys, he approved a 17-storey tower at Radius (now the site of the 16-storey Hudson Walk One) and the Y-Lot's 16, 20 and 15-storey (Marriott, Astoria and Belvedere, respectively) towers were approved and built under his watch. His distaste for Gateway Green was peculiar, but he maintained that the economics of the tower couldn't work which is why he felt the proposal wasn't appropriate for the lot. And he was right.
Where built form is going today (we just built a [shockingly tall] 21-storey tower and Townline is hoping to nudge its Lowe-approved 24-storey tower to ~29-storeys [good God!]) has more to do with forces putting pressure on the housing stock from every direction than it does City Hall's desires or any one politician's point of view suddenly changing (consider how Madoff has essentially become the guaranteed lone dissenting voice on nearly every proposal, which has done little else but to cast her as a throwback to a bygone era and as a councillor who is no longer relevant to the attitudes and needs of present-day Victoria, yet we're still mostly hovering in the high teen zone).
Madoff, out of touch with reality, objected to the Row development because it would replace vacant, decrepit and worthy of demolition single-family homes close to downtown. That stance just doesn't make sense any more, but she likely doesn't realize it and believes her opinion still carries weight.
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