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#2261 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 19 July 2020 - 03:53 PM

still not sure there is going to be a wild flee to the rural areas. people like cities for many reasons.

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Posted 19 July 2020 - 04:07 PM

No worries, even if it did happen, the authorities in the cities would be using every tool in the toolbox to keep the crisis going.

 

What we really need is a stiff new tax on any home worth more than $250K. That will make life easier for everyone, right?



#2263 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 19 July 2020 - 04:09 PM

taxes are always good so yes.

#2264 aastra

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Posted 19 July 2020 - 04:13 PM

I think the ideal situation would be a high tax on undeveloped or underdeveloped properties (you know, because of the housing crisis), and an even higher tax on developed properties (you know, because of the housing crisis).



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Posted 19 July 2020 - 04:32 PM

maybe also tax the construction of new housing units too. that way when someone builds one you get money for the affordable housing strategy.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 19 July 2020 - 04:33 PM.


#2266 Mike K.

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Posted 19 July 2020 - 08:41 PM

Won’t the equity tax just lead to higher prices?

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#2267 spanky123

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Posted 20 July 2020 - 08:35 AM

Won’t the equity tax just lead to higher prices?

 

Of course it will and higher ongoing costs for those who own houses. This has nothing to do with making houses more affordable and everything to do with the opposite. The goal is to have the Government own housing and making it unaffordable is the preferred way to do that.


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#2268 spanky123

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Posted 20 July 2020 - 08:37 AM

still not sure there is going to be a wild flee to the rural areas. people like cities for many reasons.

 

Here is an example that I suspect is being played out across every major city.

 

A local company that I know had two of its staff move. One to Oliver and one to Prince George. Normally this wouldn't be unusual except for the fact that the company had no idea that they had moved until 6 weeks after the fact when they tried to organize a staff get together! Apparently the two folk were checking in daily on zoom and nobody was the wiser.



#2269 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 20 July 2020 - 08:39 AM

Oliver I can understand. Beautiful. The other needs a mental health checkup.

#2270 Mike K.

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Posted 20 July 2020 - 08:41 AM

Might that be Kanye West?
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#2271 Nparker

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Posted 20 July 2020 - 09:29 AM

still not sure there is going to be a wild flee to the rural areas. people like cities for many reasons.

I used to like living in the heart of the CoV...that was before October 2014 of course. Now I can't wait to leave.


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#2272 Rob Randall

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 10:50 AM

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#2273 aastra

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Posted 29 July 2020 - 11:33 AM

It's pretty straightforward:

 

After 1950, all levels of government were intent on wiping out low income city neighbourhoods.

 

After 2000, all levels of government are intent on re-creating low income city neighbourhoods.

 

After 2050, all levels of government will be intent on wiping out low income city neighbourhoods.

 

etc.

 

Lather, rinse, repeat. Perpetual upheaval, perpetual crisis.


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#2274 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 14 September 2020 - 04:16 AM

Saanich Housing Strategy task force to start tackling the issue this month

 

https://www.vicnews....sue-this-month/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you don't really need a task force saanich.

 

just let people build high/dense along mckenzie and shelbourne and quadra and even parts of cedar hill and cedar hill xrd and tillicum and burnside and vernon and pat bay highway.  that'll get you 40k or 60k units without much neighbourhood fuss. 

 

then check back in 20 years for your next step.

 

task force dismissed.


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#2275 LJ

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Posted 14 September 2020 - 08:08 PM

Vancouver is going to solve the problem by building 4 houses on one city lot.


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#2276 aastra

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Posted 15 September 2020 - 08:13 AM

I feel optimistic that the right committee can lick the housing issue in short order:

 

Victoria News

September 14, 2020

 

Saanich Housing Strategy task force to start tackling the issue this month

 

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Daily Colonist
January 7, 1969

- Saanich sets up council committee to tackle housing crisis;

 

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Daily Colonist
August 31, 1968

Rent Controls Suggested to Solve Housing Crisis

Governments may be forced into rent control until the housing crisis is solved, Saaanich Ald. Edith Gunning suggested Friday.

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"I don't know what to do until there are enough houses available, except to go into rent control."

"There are so many factors beyond our control -- high land prices, and high interest costs are the main ones. I've never been in favor of rent controls, but you wonder what else can be done to keep rents at a reasonable level."

...the crisis has reached such proportions that all reasonable solutions will have to be considered.

 

 

They said "all reasonable solutions" would have to be considered. But this guy's ideas were just too cuckoo bananas:

 

 

Daily Colonist
April 2, 1969

Rigid Bylaws Blamed for House Shortage

A Victoria architect-planner - D.M. Cowin - Tuesday blamed the housing crisis on municipalities because of their rigid bylaws and told Saanich housing committee that its municipality was one of the worst offenders.

The committee later was less than enthusiastic about Mr. Cowin's proposal for helping to ease the housing crisis in Saanich by the construction of at least 20 patio dwelling units.

He said Transport Minister Paul Hellyer's housing report stressed the need for freedom of choice but a home-seeker has only two options - "a single-family residence at a cost he can't afford or a filing cabinet unsuitable for family living."

The patio housing proposal calls for the use of "industrialized" (prefabricated) houses which would be assembled on the building site at a saving of from 12/5 to 15 per cent of conventional costs.


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#2277 aastra

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Posted 17 September 2020 - 07:56 AM

People think I'm joking when I talk about how scripted so many of these news items are. The same phrasings are used over and over again, generations apart. The same crocodile tears. We've seen many instances (for example, the new pool saga) whereby an entire article could have been re-printed decades later with only the most minor changes to names and dollar values, and nobody would have been the wiser.

 

Saanich is starting to tackle the housing issue in 2020, just like Saanich DID start to tackle the housing issue in 1969 or 1989, and just like Saanich WILL start to tackle the housing issue in 2029.

 

And then they always mention the exact same ancient challenges and pressures, as if excessive regulations & delays, high taxes & fees, and the high cost of land are new wrinkles that call for fresh investigation.


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Posted 17 September 2020 - 08:05 AM

76-unit affordable seniors rental complex, with youth and elder social spaces, planned for Sooke's town centre

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