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#421 Ismo07

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Posted 23 February 2021 - 10:17 AM

 Duh


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#422 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 23 February 2021 - 10:25 AM

if we all just drink 17% more or whatever it’ll be fine.

#423 Matt R.

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Posted 23 February 2021 - 10:33 AM

For a lot of places this is probably their lease payment.

Shout out to the BCRFA and ABLE for lobbying tirelessly on my behalf. They’ve made up a lifetime of membership fees with this.

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#424 Ismo07

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Posted 23 February 2021 - 10:50 AM

For a lot of places this is probably their lease payment.

Shout out to the BCRFA and ABLE for lobbying tirelessly on my behalf. They’ve made up a lifetime of membership fees with this.

Matt.

 

Is it really that much of a discount moving forward?


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#425 Jackerbie

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Posted 23 February 2021 - 11:02 AM

Is it really that much of a discount moving forward?


Matt will have better numbers but I've heard it's a roughly 20% markup from wholesale to retail prices
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#426 Matt R.

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Posted 23 February 2021 - 11:23 AM

Is it really that much of a discount moving forward?


Massive. Imagine you are cactus club. The keg. Etc. Millions a year. Could be $100k+ per year in savings for single large restaurants, easily.

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#427 lanforod

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Posted 23 February 2021 - 11:54 AM

Hopefully restaurants pass some of the savings back to customers, especially post pandemic.



#428 Matt R.

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Posted 23 February 2021 - 01:00 PM

Hopefully restaurants pass some of the savings back to customers, especially post pandemic.


Riiiiiiight.

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#429 spanky123

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Posted 23 February 2021 - 02:02 PM

Licensees granted access to wholesale pricing permanently. This is great news for the industry. No word on how government plans to make up the multi million dollar shortfall. :)

https://news.gov.bc....PSSG0014-000308

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They will increase the wholesale prices!


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#430 spanky123

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Posted 23 February 2021 - 02:05 PM

Riiiiiiight.

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There will be some downward pressure on prices with competition. I expect that over time most will use the markup they had previously on the new base price. 



#431 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 23 February 2021 - 02:14 PM

There will be some downward pressure on prices with competition. I expect that over time most will use the markup they had previously on the new base price. 

 

that's the beautiful thing about the market.  it will figure it out.

 

mark-up already varies widely.  compare earl's happy hour to irish times kitty corner.  


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#432 spanky123

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Posted 23 February 2021 - 02:18 PM

that's the beautiful thing about the market.  it will figure it out.

 

mark-up already varies widely.  compare earl's happy hour to irish times kitty corner.  

 

Matt can confirm but I believe that there are floor prices which liquor can be sold at.


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#433 Nparker

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Posted 23 February 2021 - 02:20 PM

As much as I might not like to pay the mark-up, liquor is far from an essential product, so I don't begrudge retailers, restaurants and bars their profit.



#434 spanky123

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Posted 23 February 2021 - 02:24 PM

As much as I might not like to pay the mark-up, liquor is far from an essential product, so I don't begrudge retailers, restaurants and bars their profit.

 

Agreed. One can choose to purchase or not.


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#435 Nparker

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Posted 23 February 2021 - 02:26 PM

I can't recall the last time a gun was put to my head and I was forced to purchase alcohol. Of course if I was forced to drink a lot, I might not remember any of it.  ;)



#436 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 23 February 2021 - 02:28 PM

Agreed. One can choose to purchase or not.

 

you can always bring in your own flask.   that's legal under the current emergency measures.


Edited by Victoria Watcher, 23 February 2021 - 02:32 PM.


#437 Matt R.

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Posted 23 February 2021 - 03:06 PM

I’m hearing lots of surprise as people learn hospitality has always paid the exact same price you or I do at the liquor store.

I think operators will use this windfall to cover some additional costs like increases in insurance, property taxes, wage and benefit increases, employer health tax premiums, and maybe even recover a few bucks lost over the last year.

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#438 spanky123

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Posted 23 February 2021 - 03:18 PM

I’m hearing lots of surprise as people learn hospitality has always paid the exact same price you or I do at the liquor store.

I think operators will use this windfall to cover some additional costs like increases in insurance, property taxes, wage and benefit increases, employer health tax premiums, and maybe even recover a few bucks lost over the last year.

Matt.

 

I had thought there was a small discount (10%) but knew it wasn't much. 

 

As I suggested I think that your windfall will be short lived. The Government isn't giving up that much money, they will raise prices overall to compensate.


Edited by spanky123, 23 February 2021 - 03:19 PM.


#439 Matt R.

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Posted 23 February 2021 - 05:14 PM

I had thought there was a small discount (10%) but knew it wasn't much.

As I suggested I think that your windfall will be short lived. The Government isn't giving up that much money, they will raise prices overall to compensate.


No, no discount. Some wineries that were allowed to sell direct had “hospitality” or “by the glass” pricing but that was the exception not the rule.

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#440 LJ

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Posted 23 February 2021 - 08:50 PM

The government says it amounts to a $71M bailout to the hospitality industry.

 

I quit drinking when I go out for dinner when the driving laws all changed. 


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