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#341 Rob Randall

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Posted 10 June 2020 - 07:47 PM

Mike's vehicles have their own postal code.


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#342 aastra

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Posted 10 June 2020 - 07:48 PM

Oak Bay was charming but also all wrong:

 

 

Daily Colonist
September 6, 1967

 

Build Up Personality, Oak Bay Told

 

Village Project

The report suggests a $335,000 revitalization of Oak Bay village, the largest shopping area in the municipality.

It would involve moving Oak Bay Avenue North, turning the present Oak Bay Avenue into a pedestrian mall between Yale and Monterey. There would be an apartment cluster to the north and a home improvement area to the south.

Features of the new Oak Bay Village would be shops with distinctively-designed entrances, small greens and "conversation corners," underground wiring and free crossing at all points for pedestrians.

However, this will need better access to the north -- possibly extension of Cadboro Bay Road to link with Hampshire -- and a new loop road to the north.

 

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Victoria's emergency rooms weren't such sleepy places back in the good ol' days:

 

 

Daily Colonist
September 6, 1967

Hospitals Treat 153 Victims

St. Joseph's and Royal Jubilee Hospitals last month treated 153 victims of traffic accidents.

They were among 4,834 people who were seen at the emergency wards of both hospitals...


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#343 Rob Randall

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Posted 10 June 2020 - 07:52 PM

Interesting concept; it might have been a good plan. But there isn't really any street north of the Avenue, I assume they would have bulldozed a new street.


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#344 aastra

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Posted 10 June 2020 - 08:06 PM

I assume they were wanting to widen the back lane and make it a full blown street. Pretty crazy. Back then they were inventing arbitrary major roadwork projects just 'cuz. Like that idea for an overpass at Blanshard and Collinson from earlier in this thread.

 

 

Daily Colonist
February 17, 1970

 

Overpass Vs. Belleville St.
$2,000,000 Solution

A $2,000,000 overpass at Blanshard and Collinson will be necessary if the provincial government insists on routing Belleville Street traffic north of St. Joseph's Hospital, says Victoria city hall.

The overpass proposal is the latest complication in the city's efforts to clear the clogged funnel of the Belleville-Blanshard area.

The city wants to extend Belleville Street east through St. Joseph's property to connect with Fairfield Road. The project would create an artery carrying much of the civil service traffic which originates in easterly Victoria and Oak Bay.

The possible overpass would run north-south on Blanshard, spanning the five-way intersection at Blanshard, McClure and Collinson.

City hall officials say that traffic will become a hopeless mess at the intersection in a few years. That is, unless the overpass is built, or Belleville can run through to Fairfield.

"Without an overpass, that intersection will become a maelstrom."

Part of the city's long-range traffic plan involves making Quadra a one-way street running south, and Vancouver one way running north.

 


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#345 Rob Randall

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Posted 10 June 2020 - 08:13 PM

Recall that Collinson overpass would have continued on through Beacon Hill Park, through James Bay and over a bridge leading to Songhees. A U-shaped highway from Blanshard to Vic West.


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#346 aastra

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Posted 10 June 2020 - 08:23 PM

Mike K. would have made good use of it.



#347 aastra

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Posted 10 June 2020 - 08:28 PM

Here's something that's changed. Once upon a time Oak Bay was being promoted as if it were the model for the tidy and well-planned new Victoria, rather than something old fashioned.

 

 

Daily Colonist
March 18, 1950

Oak Bay: A Model Municipality

From comparative obscurity before the turn of the century, Oak Bay has earned itself the reputation of being one of the most-envied municipalities in British Columbia.

Oak Bay has attained this valued position because of much expert guidance since its incorporation in 1906. Careful management and sound investment have made Oak Bay a financially healthy municipality which stands high in the bond dealers' register.

Good municipal government has kept taxes low in comparison with other municipalities. Services are considered good. The municipality's bonded indebtedness is low...

Like other municipalities, Oak Bay is in the midst of a building boom with attractive subdivisions springing up throughout. In order to maintain a high standard, municipal building restrictions are strict...

From a population of about 300 in 1906, the area has grown into a thriving municipality of 12,500 residents and 3,600 homes. Homeowners are well protected by well-planned zoning regulations.

Oak Bay has great natural beauties with its winding seashore, sandy beaches and bountiful park areas. There are two world-famous golf courses within its bounds. Boating, yachting and fishing enthusiasts find Oak Bay ideal.

EFFICIENT MUNICIPAL SERVICES are a keynote in Oak Bay. Councils have avoided amalgamation like the plague. Police and fire departments give the taxpayer the protection he deserves.

ON THIS STREET note absence of telephone and electrical poles and lines... Street pictured above is in new subdivision and has been developed along more modern town-planning ideas. Street is gracefully curved and all poles are erected on back of lot lines instead of front. Note neater appearance.



#348 Mike K.

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Posted 10 June 2020 - 08:45 PM

Mike's vehicles have their own postal code.


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#349 aastra

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Posted 12 June 2020 - 09:36 AM

Casino stuff:

 

 

Daily Colonist
August 28, 1974

Crystal as casino city coffer-stuffer?

A gambling casino? In Victoria? In the Crystal Garden?

He's got to be kidding.

But kidding's the last thing on Ald. Sam Bawlf's mind. Victoria, he says, could and probably should have a high-class gambling casino to subsidize city coffers.

And the vacant Crystal Garden, Victoria's former swimming pool, says Bawlf, would be the perfect spot for such a casino.

Bawlf told the committee that a casino could probably be operated under the new provincial lotteries regulations.

The committee had some reservations about the idea, but didn't reject it out of hand.

It was included in the list of possible alternatives for the development of the vacant building.

 

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Times-Colonist
September 24, 2016

 

Crystal Garden ruled out as potential casino site

Victoria’s Crystal Garden is no longer on the table as a potential casino site, say Victoria officials.

The B.C. Lottery Corp. has told the city that remodelling the Crystal for a casino would be too challenging, deputy city manager Jocelyn Jenkyns said.

 "The other thing that was a bit of an issue was parking, not withstanding that we have the underground parking at the conference centre."

Asked for comment, a spokesperson for the lottery corporation said no decisions about locations have been made.


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#350 aastra

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Posted 12 June 2020 - 10:30 AM

Countless times we've seen private property being acquired by the government, and countless times we've seen government property being sold off. There's nothing unusual about it. Why is it suddenly such a sticking point with regard to the bit of land beside Northern Junk? And was that particular property also privately owned at one point? No idea, but I sure wouldn't be surprised if it was.

 

 

Daily Colonist
June 26, 1973

40 Lots in City Placed on Block

About $600,000 is expected to flow into Victoria city coffers from the sale of 40 fully-serviced lots in the northeast corner of the city, right at the Saanich boundary.

The 40-lot subdivision, the last big chunk of land owned by the city within city limits, is considered a prime location.

...lots on nearby streets, without a view, were sold by the city for about $9,000 more than a year ago.

The subdivision is bounded by Cook, Tolmie and Finlayson. There are no through roads, only quiet cul-de-sacs.

It is estimated that the average price will be $15,000 a lot.

 

Win-win. The city makes some money and ordinary people benefit.

 

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Edit: Not sure when Mr. Gowen wrote the following memoir, but I'm assuming somewhere around ~1890, since he seems to have died in December, 1892:

 

 

Charles Gowen's Story

 

In 1865, I (Charles Gowen) was elected a member of the City Council and two or three times again up to 1884. I was in the City Council when the first piece of property was ever bought for the city. It was for a city pound. It was bought from F. Goenenberg for $500.

...In fact, I was in the Council when every piece of property the city owns was bought, up to the present time.


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#351 Nparker

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Posted 12 June 2020 - 10:49 AM

 

...countless times we've seen government property being sold off. There's nothing unusual about it. Why is it suddenly such a sticking point with regard to the bit of land beside Northern Junk...

One word: ideology. I am sure there are at least a few people on council who hope the developer will walk away from this project and the city can buy the NJ land for some nice public housing.



#352 aastra

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Posted 12 June 2020 - 02:39 PM

Maybe bowling alleys have never not been disappearing?
 

 

Daily Colonist
October 31, 1976

Island lanes dwindle again as Sidney operation closes

The loss of the Sidney lanes leaves only three houses south of Duncan, with a total of 44 fivepin lanes. Town and Country has 24, Mayfair has 12, and Wilson's Bowladrome in Esquimalt has eight lanes.

The Sidney house was built in 1972 by Harry Welch...

Welch ran Capital City Lanes on Yates St. for many years but it was turned into an auction mart when Welch moved to Sidney.

 

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#353 aastra

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Posted 13 June 2020 - 07:09 PM

Multi-page ad for Regent Towers in James Bay back in May, 1963:



 



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