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#2821 Kach

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 11:13 AM

RJAG...when did police state that speed was not a factor?

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#2822 rjag

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 01:22 PM

RJAG...when did police state that speed was not a factor?

It was noted in the news article last night where the police spokesman indicated that they didnt think speed or alcohol was a factor

 

 

https://vancouverisl...chool-1.3729849

 

 

Drivers in both vehicles involved were taken to the Saanich police detachment, and investigators say there's no indication speed or alcohol were factors.



#2823 Mike K.

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 01:23 PM

So are we saying that the child walked out onto the crosswalk without looking?

 

Sort of like what thousands of adults do every single day in downtown Victoria?


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#2824 Kach

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Posted 21 December 2017 - 01:41 PM

Thanks RJAG. I had not seen that report.
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Posted 21 December 2017 - 02:25 PM

Leaving this incident aside, it's unsafe to enter any crosswalk until you are sure the cars coming in all directions are aware of you, and are slowing down.

 

I do not expect a grade 6er to be perfect at this at all. 

The crosswalk at Richardson and Cook is very perilous, yet I see people step out without even hesitating, assuming people will stop.



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Posted 21 December 2017 - 09:24 PM

So are we saying that the child walked out onto the crosswalk without looking?

 

Sort of like what thousands of adults do every single day in downtown Victoria?

 

Vast difference between Gordon Head and downtown, of course, and also between a young child and phone buried idiots.

This is my regular commute route. I don't think there anything needed to improve this crosswalk, though I don't walk here, just drive or bike.



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Posted 21 December 2017 - 09:31 PM

I walked Ash Rd. a couple times last summer (2016).  I do not think this intersection is marked poorly.  From west of Majestic, all the way up to Tyndall, it's easily the most marked up one.  I think with the light and the marked crosswalk there might be too much a sense of safety for walkers.  To me the light is there more for Torquay traffic, to make sure cars do not blow through it by mistake at night.     


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Posted 22 December 2017 - 09:18 AM

I walked Ash Rd. a couple times last summer (2016).  I do not think this intersection is marked poorly.  From west of Majestic, all the way up to Tyndall, it's easily the most marked up one.  I think with the light and the marked crosswalk there might be too much a sense of safety for walkers.  To me the light is there more for Torquay traffic, to make sure cars do not blow through it by mistake at night.     

 

Put speed bumps on Ash approaching the intersection.

Put in a traffic light, and clear all the vegetation back to improve the sight lines.

Some of this work could be done today.



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Posted 22 December 2017 - 09:23 AM

Put speed bumps on Ash approaching the intersection.

Put in a traffic light, and clear all the vegetation back to improve the sight lines.

Some of this work could be done today.

 

Have a look at the google streetview I posted a page or so back, the sightlines are very good, its on a flat stretch and there is clear visibility for at least 150 meters. There arent many crosswalks on that stretch so this would be a good place to put in strobe lights on a button, but theres no need for a traffic light there


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Posted 22 December 2017 - 11:14 AM

Have a look at the google streetview I posted a page or so back, the sightlines are very good, its on a flat stretch and there is clear visibility for at least 150 meters.

There arent many crosswalks on that stretch so this would be a good place to put in strobe lights on a button, but theres no need for a traffic light there

 

I don't think the sight lines are "very good".  Any vegetation that is outside of a homes property line needs to be trimmed back. You can see this if you look along Torquay back towards the intersection looking south. there is a person standing right at the corner that is barely visible in daylight hours. Think of the low light overcast days and you would not see anyone there.

I would take down that Arbutus tree on the SW corner before it falls down at a most inconvenient time.



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Posted 22 December 2017 - 12:43 PM

Wether it's designed for it or not, Ash is an arterial road. A lot of commuters use it. Speed bumps are not ideal because of that.

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Posted 22 December 2017 - 12:45 PM

Ya Ash is a nice route to have a pleasurable, moving drive, to avoid McKenzie and Shelbourne, going to and from UVIC.
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Posted 22 December 2017 - 12:47 PM

Someone from SD61 was on CFAX this AM and commented that Ash is seeing higher traffic volumes due to new bike lanes on Shelbourne. 


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Posted 22 December 2017 - 01:32 PM

Someone from SD61 was on CFAX this AM and commented that Ash is seeing higher traffic volumes due to new bike lanes on Shelbourne. 

 

 I would agree to the higher volumes, I would attribute that to the lane reduction from the park through to Feltham, definitely way more traffic taking Ash since they reduced the main arterial route to 1 lane each way...just wait to see the increase on Cedar Hill and Richmond when Shelbourne is reduced to 1 lane from Hillside Mall to McKenzie



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Posted 22 December 2017 - 05:25 PM

The section of Torquay between Brymea Lane and Ash narrows as it heads north.

It's a terrible intersection for the amount of traffic that uses it.



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Posted 22 December 2017 - 05:33 PM

Where Ash becomes Grandview right at Tyndall is a horrible three-way intersection, too. Vehicles coming out of the north end of Tyndall which is just beyond the three-way are so often blocked from view and tend to pop out as vehicles starting moving west on Grandview as it becomes Ash.


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Posted 22 December 2017 - 09:42 PM

Was by the intersection today and nothing has been done to rectify the thing, NOTHING... and the young girl is in an induced coma in the hospital.



#2838 Mike K.

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Posted 23 December 2017 - 07:59 AM

Rectify what thing?

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Posted 23 December 2017 - 08:01 AM

Where Ash becomes Grandview right at Tyndall is a horrible three-way intersection, too. Vehicles coming out of the north end of Tyndall which is just beyond the three-way are so often blocked from view and tend to pop out as vehicles starting moving west on Grandview as it becomes Ash.


It used to be goofier before it was a 4-way.
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Posted 23 December 2017 - 08:03 AM

Was by the intersection today and nothing has been done to rectify the thing, NOTHING... and the young girl is in an induced coma in the hospital.


It’s not a very busy intersection for through Torquay traffic at all. 95% of Torquay traffic northbound turns.

I’m not sure it needs work. If anything all the markings make a pedestrian too comfortable that cars will stop,
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