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[todd]

Birds survived the dinosaurs just fine, why are we worried about a few dogs?

I believe there is some kind of argument that bird poop can stop global warming by creating clouds. https://www.pbslearn...op-make-clouds/

Don’t know if that’s the argument?

[Nparker]

I believe there is some kind of argument that bird poop can stop global warming by creating clouds...

I guano know about that.

[todd]

I guano know about that.

if it is I hope they consult with an epidemiologist.

“…This sanctuary was established on October 27, 1923 to control hunting..”:
https://www.canada.c...ia-harbour.html

Edited by todd, 09 December 2021 - 12:35 PM.

[aastra]

If scientific study of the discussions on Vibrant Victoria ever becomes a thing, I hope they call it "ornerythology".

[Mike K.]

Because assumptialysis just isn't cool enough for you, aastra?

[Victoria Watcher]

Let’s fix Clover Point after the election

 

On a recent visit to Clover Point, I was fortunate enough to find a parking spot in the “lucky zone.” For over half an hour, from the comfort of my car, I was able to watch the high waves generated by the prevailing windstorm.

 

There was a steady stream of cars coming in behind me. Most of them turned around in the tiny circle at the end of the road, and left. A few of them got lucky like me and found a space. I couldn’t help but sigh when I remembered how easy it used to be.

 

I also got out of my car and went for a walk. I studied the damage that the city “experts” have inflicted upon the area in the name of “improvements.” I realized that it wouldn’t cost much to undo this damage: move the picnic tables off the roadway unto the grass, and remove the post barriers.

 

With that in mind, and with a municipal election coming up next year, I have a suggestion for all candidates.

 

Part of your campaign could include a phrase like “Let’s fix Clover Point.” It’s not too late.

 

Rob Schott
Victoria

 

 

https://www.timescol...-harbor-4846071

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 09 December 2021 - 12:50 PM.

[JimV]

I’m with Rob Schott on this one.  Additionally they could pledge to undo most of the “traffic improvements” on city roads that have been made over the past few years, including the ugly and distracting cluster of signs that now deface almost all of them.

[Nparker]

I expect there are a lot of picnickers at the 'point today. 

Edited by Nparker, 11 December 2021 - 03:18 PM.

[Nparker]

...they could pledge to undo most of the “traffic improvements” on city roads that have been made over the past few years, including the ugly and distracting cluster of signs that now deface almost all of them.

I bet there are more signs than asphalt on Vancouver Street now.

[JimV]

I expect there are a lot of picnickers at the 'point today. 

Actually I drove by there mid morning.  Two or three cars.  No one, of course, on any of the chairs or tables.  There were about a dozen people standing around in a cluster.  Hard to say what they were doing.  Maybe studying how to ruin a much loved community amenity.

[sebberry]

https://www.youtube....h?v=n_eHFu4iTsg

 

This is Picnic (Clover) Point.  The changes, supposedly pedestrian friendly, have made access frustrating for both pedestrians and drivers.  The tight parking is inconvenient for families with kids, strollers, pets, etc... and frankly dangerous when maneuvering in and out of spaces.  The two way road, formerly a one-way half of the loop is now narrow and leaves considerably less space for pedestrians and vehicles to safely and comfortably coexist.  Parking has been substantially limited, resulting in more vehicle traffic entering the area only to have to leave again, unable to stay and enjoy the viewpoint.  

 

This is anything but 'pedestrian friendly'.  They took a well loved viewpoint, formerly spacious and safe for all who visited, ironically criticized it for being a 'parking lot' and turned it into even more of a parking lot than it ever used to be.

[A Girl is No one]

When all that was needed was a pedestrian walkway around the loop… but it wouldn’t have hindered vehicles access so not a valid idea.

[Hotel Mike]

What a perfect example of finding some dogmatic solution to something that is not a problem. 

[sebberry]

Even Google had to come and take a look

 

https://www.google.c...84!8i8192?hl=en

[On the Level]

Even Google had to come and take a look

 

https://www.google.c...84!8i8192?hl=en

 

If you drive to the end and keep going at the turn around, it changes back to the old Clover Point

[Mike K.]

We have our very own Easter egg! Even Google is wondering what the heck happened.

[sebberry]

Gorgeous sunny September afternoon and there's two people at one of the 8-person picnic tables.  The rest are empty

 

I also see fewer birds in the post-adjustment photos.  Perhaps this is proof that the changes are harming wildlife.  Where's the guy who got off-leash dogs banned from beaches when you need him?

[Mike K.]

I believe there are 39 vehicles pictured in May of 2015. In September of 2021 there are 19.

[Nparker]

I believe there are 39 vehicles pictured in May of 2015. In September of 2021 there are 19.

Then Council's decision was, by their standards, successful.

[sebberry]

I drive all the way to Esquimalt Lagoon now when I want to watch the waves lap the shoreline

https://www.google.c...84!8i8192?hl=en