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#981 sebberry

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Posted 27 November 2021 - 11:35 AM

Who picked the 2024 date? That must have been a council motion somewhere, no?


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#982 Mike K.

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Posted 27 November 2021 - 07:19 PM

Several councillors had no idea, so I don't think it was a motion.


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#983 A Girl is No one

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Posted 08 December 2021 - 05:50 PM

I was shocked to see signs along the beach on Dallas road that state dogs have to be on leash. For migratory birds. I had not heard a peep about it.

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Posted 08 December 2021 - 06:04 PM

^ Does that include the off leash areas or just down on the beach itself?



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Posted 08 December 2021 - 06:06 PM

Gotta protect the seagulls so they can poop on everyone's cars!


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#986 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 08 December 2021 - 06:24 PM

I was shocked to see signs along the beach on Dallas road that state dogs have to be on leash. For migratory birds. I had not heard a peep about it.

 

https://www.timescol...beaches-4692306

 

Federal agency cracks down on unleashed dogs on Greater Victoria beaches

#987 Nparker

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Posted 08 December 2021 - 06:27 PM

Gotta protect the seagulls so they can poop on everyone's cars!

Thanks to the CoV council's foresight, there are a lot fewer cars for the seagulls to poop on at Clover Point.  :thumbsup:



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Posted 08 December 2021 - 06:48 PM

https://www.timescol...beaches-4692306
 
Federal agency cracks down on unleashed dogs on Greater Victoria beaches


Jacques Sirois is going to be a really popular guy among down owners when springtime rolls around.

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#989 A Girl is No one

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Posted 08 December 2021 - 09:03 PM

There is plenty of shoreline for birds, and only a few areas where dogs are allowed to romp around. It’s absurd to blame the dogs for the drop in bird population.
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Posted 08 December 2021 - 09:32 PM

 

It’s absurd to blame the dogs for the drop in bird population...

 

Good governance is the tireless search for someone to blame for something. You know they're taking the job seriously whenever they identify some new & especially absurd scapegoat for some new & especially absurd issue.

 

(cue the conspiracy theorists who wonder why the government itself is never to blame in 3... 2... 1...)


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Posted 08 December 2021 - 10:34 PM

 While unable to immediately pin down how many complaints it has received in recent months, Environment and Climate Change Canada said the public voiced concerns about a growing number of dogs harassing birds in the sanctuary.

“Wildlife violations were occurring regularly in some areas of the Victoria Harbour Migratory Bird Sanctuary, and municipalities sought guidance from Environment and Climate Change Canada. We confirmed the violations through officer patrols, communications with partner agencies and the public, including from tips sent to ECCC’s public inquiries centre,” spokesperson Hannah Boonstra wrote. That includes a phone number and email on the federal website 



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Posted 08 December 2021 - 10:50 PM

Human activity, not dogs, are the problem. Just close the beaches to all humans.

 

I was out for a walk tonight and an owl was sitting on the railing next to the crosswalk.  I was looking the other way, so I didn't notice it until it was too late and it got startled and flew away.  I've never seen an owl just sitting on that railing before, but it was me - a human - that scared it away.  


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Posted 08 December 2021 - 10:53 PM

pretty sure those birds would be pretty safe if they just sat on the empty picnic tables - nobody ever goes near them

 

today's random drive-by @ 3:30 p,m, - nothing but empty, except for all the parking spaces whivh were full ... of course!


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Posted 09 December 2021 - 08:11 AM

Most of the Victoria waterfront from Royal Rhodes to Willows beach has been a bird sanctuary for almost 100years. Most Victoria residents are not aware of this. and some may not care.

 

However these current actions and reminders are just one way to make people aware. There are many people who do care.



#995 Nparker

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Posted 09 December 2021 - 08:18 AM

..these current actions and reminders are just one way to make people aware...

They are just more of the ever-increasing nanny state in which we reside.



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Posted 09 December 2021 - 08:23 AM

Thanks for your informative well thought out opinion.

Perhaps it fits into the conspiracy thread?



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Posted 09 December 2021 - 08:25 AM

Most of the Victoria waterfront from Royal Rhodes to Willows beach has been a bird sanctuary for almost 100years. Most Victoria residents are not aware of this. and some may not care.

 

However these current actions and reminders are just one way to make people aware. There are many people who do care.

 

I think if a bird decides to nest / rest here on our urban shore, it deserves to be disturbed.  Darwin and all.



#998 Nparker

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Posted 09 December 2021 - 08:32 AM

Thanks for your informative well thought out opinion...

You're welcome.



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Posted 09 December 2021 - 08:32 AM

Birds survived the dinosaurs just fine, why are we worried about a few dogs?


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Posted 09 December 2021 - 12:03 PM

There is plenty of shoreline for birds, and only a few areas where dogs are allowed to romp around. It’s absurd to blame the dogs for the drop in bird population.


Not a “on leash” Oak Bay bylaw for McNeill Bay (certain times of the year) in the version listed.

“at large” does not have a definition given by the federal government but Oak Bay does:

““AT LARGE” means off the premises of the owner and unaccompanied by a competent person in control of the animal on any street, lane, highway, boulevard, park or other public place or on private property without the consent and knowledge of the owner of that property“



https://www.oakbay.c...verlay-context=


Unless I’m missing something?


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