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[todd]

It will be fun for the picnickers at Clover Point today.

https://twitter.com/...9927220225?s=21

Edited by todd, 25 October 2021 - 03:59 PM.

[todd]

just now

Edited by todd, 23 November 2021 - 03:04 PM.

[todd]

just now

Edited by todd, 23 November 2021 - 03:04 PM.

[Nparker]

Lots of picnickers there today?

[todd]

Lots of picnickers there today?

Hadn’t thought about it but if I recall zero.

[todd]

[Victoria Watcher]

Two Victoria councillors want to revive the debate over Clover Point, suggesting the city undo recent temporary changes that created pedestrian-only space, and expand parking for vehicles over the winter instead.

 

Charlayne Thornton-Joe and Marianne Alto want city staff to look into what would be needed to restore vehicle access to the entire paved loop until April 1.

 

The area was partially closed to cars this spring, creating a pedestrian-only space on the west side with picnic tables and reclining chairs. Parking stalls line the east side and a small section of the west side.

 

Thornton-Joe, one of two councillors who opposed the partial closing in March, said some people are enjoying the changes, but she expects fewer will use the pedestrian space during cold and rainy winter months. “I think there’s just the opportunity for Clover Point to be enjoyed by more during the winter months if we were able to open it until spring,” she said. The motion asks staff to report back to councillors in the new year.

 

Mayor Lisa Helps called it “poor governance” to bring the idea forward now as it would increase the workload for staff working on several park projects. “Asking staff to revisit parking for the winter means tearing out tables, tearing out chairs, tearing out bollards and undoing some of the work that was just done.

 

 

 

https://www.timescol...-winter-4791656

[Nparker]

Now Her Worseship cares about burdening city staff with extra work? What a hypocrite.

[todd]

[Victoria Watcher]

Victoria councillors put off decision on increasing vehicle access to Clover Point

Clover Point redesigned with area where cars aren't allowed

 

https://www.timescol...r-point-4800874

[Mike K.]

But the changes were so awesome. Why would council even discuss the idea of reverting back to the former design?

[Nparker]

And the vast majority of the public really wanted these changes and has thoroughly endorsed them! /s

[spanky123]

Staff have time to write dozens of useless letters pontificating (on behalf of council) to various levels of Government both in and outside of Canada yet they don't have time to figure out how Clover Point might be reconfigured. 

[Victoria Watcher]

Staff have time to write dozens of useless letters pontificating (on behalf of council) to various levels of Government both in and outside of Canada yet they don't have time to figure out how Clover Point might be reconfigured. 

 

It seems nobody bothered to do a simple traffic count or multi-month photographs before the decommissioning prior to the sewage work.

Edited by Victoria Watcher, 26 November 2021 - 08:55 AM.

[Mike K.]

And the pilot is going to extend into 2024 before we get to review the bad plan. This nugget was hidden on page 697 of a city hall document.

[Nparker]

And the pilot is going to extend into 2024 before we get to review the bad plan..

Coincidentally AFTER the next civic election.

[Mike K.]

Who creates a pilot project nobody asked for, and does away with responding to community feedback for three years?

This is another example of something nobody asked for but supposedly council heard from lots of people that they supposedly wanted.

[Victoria Watcher]

They ignored the only actual community survey on the issue, from nearby residents.

[Barrrister]

Mike, the answer is our wonderful city council who does this sort of thing regularly as we all know. They dont care what you think or what you want.

[On the Level]

^ which reinforces their contribution to reconciliation,  climate change, equality, human rights is poisonous.