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Poll: Should Government street become a pedestrian boulevard (109 member(s) have cast votes)

Should Government street become a pedestrian boulevard from Yates street to Humbolt street (Allowing restricted single lane traffic)?

  1. Yes (69 votes [63.30%])

    Percentage of vote: 63.30%

  2. No (27 votes [24.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.77%

  3. Depends (13 votes [11.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.93%

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#861 Mike K.

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Posted 23 August 2020 - 02:57 PM

Just a guess, but I'd say you don't enter unless you are local traffic, and if you are, you should still yield to pedestrians.


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#862 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 06 October 2020 - 10:27 AM

Victoria’s shops and restaurants are keen to keep expanded patios in place through the winter months, but they want Government Street reopened to at least one lane of vehicle traffic, the Downtown Victoria Business Association says.

 

The city’s Build Back ­Victoria plan, approved in June to aid the COVID-19 recovery, allowed businesses to increase their ­seating areas by setting up tables and chairs on sidewalks, streets, boulevards and public plazas.

 

https://www.timescol...dvba-1.24215773



#863 berzele

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Posted 07 October 2020 - 10:33 AM

News flash - Sometimes people behave in irresponsible, self-absorbed, thoughtless, or dangerous ways, even breaking laws or rules.  People do this while riding bikes, driving cars, walking, and in many other situations.  In many cases I believe it is the same people, and they are multi-modal jerks.    

 
Apparently you specifically notice, and are bothered by, people behaving badly while riding bikes.   Do you seriously believe that a higher percentage of people on bikes are breaking rules than people driving cars? That somehow bikes attract a greater share of jerks than cars? That people are less attentive while biking than driving?  Come on.
 

I know that you're likely more than aware that simply not liking any given by-law, or a personal belief that the breaking of any given by-law is "no big deal" is absolutely no excuse for breaking it.

 

It's precisely this attitude that justifies 99% of what car drivers and pedestrians say about cycling bad behaviour ... and it really is time that cyclists got over themselves and began behaving in a manner that reflects the massive amount of taxpayer funds put into reinventing the downtown core in order that cyclists can ride in a safe, and law abiding manner.


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#864 On the Level

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Posted 07 October 2020 - 10:59 AM

 

Apparently you specifically notice, and are bothered by, people behaving badly while riding bikes.   Do you seriously believe that a higher percentage of people on bikes are breaking rules than people driving cars? That somehow bikes attract a greater share of jerks than cars? That people are less attentive while biking than driving?  Come on.

 

 

While there are jerks in cars, I have yet to see them commonly drive over sidewalks while basically yelling at pedestrians, cross an intersection diagonally while it's red while giving everyone the stink eye or finger.

 

Of course if you are in Oak Bay, all bets are off since there is apparently some challenge with determining which pedal is the gas and which is the brake   :lol:

 

Anyways, back on topic.....


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#865 JohnsonStBridge

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Posted 07 October 2020 - 03:42 PM

Just to be the devil's advocate this reminded me of a accident last year where the vehicle did indeed drive over the Blanshard St sidewalk. Jerks exist in all forms of transportation.

 

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#866 rmpeers

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Posted 07 October 2020 - 07:15 PM


News flash - Sometimes people behave in irresponsible, self-absorbed, thoughtless, or dangerous ways, even breaking laws or rules. People do this while riding bikes, driving cars, walking, and in many other situations. In many cases I believe it is the same people, and they are multi-modal jerks.

Apparently you specifically notice, and are bothered by, people behaving badly while riding bikes. Do you seriously believe that a higher percentage of people on bikes are breaking rules than people driving cars? That somehow bikes attract a greater share of jerks than cars? That people are less attentive while biking than driving? Come on.


Yes.

#867 Victoria Watcher

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Posted 09 October 2020 - 04:59 AM

Councillors agreed Thursday to reopen Government to one lane of vehicle traffic for the winter, when there will be fewer pedestrians and increased demand for curbside pick-ups and drop-offs.

 

They will decide in the spring whether to close the street again for the summer.

 

https://www.timescol...nter-1.24218004



#868 Spy Black

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Posted 09 October 2020 - 06:54 AM

I think Munros made the effective argument for this re-opening, with a reference to some of their deliveries being a couple of thousand pounds of books in a few dozen boxes ... and the need to cart them two or three blocks just to get them into the building.

 

Of course Munros also conveniently forgot to make note in the TC article that they also have an entrance to their store on Langley Street, with a commercial loading zone right outside their private, four vehicle parking garage ... but then those are just unimportant details when you're *****ing to the press in order to get something you want for reasons having nothing to do with your stated reasons for wanting it as noted in the article.



 



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