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#201 Mike K.

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 05:08 PM

Mate, my original point hasn't changed one single iota ... the only relevant point being that Colwood Crawl traffic doesn't belong on the #1A or West Burnside for any reason whatsoever.


Sure it does. That’s what I use them both for.
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#202 exc911ence

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 05:47 PM

Mate, my original point hasn't changed one single iota ... the only relevant point being that Colwood Crawl traffic doesn't belong on the #1A or West Burnside for any reason whatsoever.

 

Nice try though ...  I'm actually paying attention to what I'm saying, and mean every word I post (in short, I'm not OCD posting in order to read back my own words the next day).

 

Roads are meant to be driven on, that's their primary function. If a road goes to where you want to go, then drive on it. If two roads go where you want to go, choose one or the other. If one is busy, why not take the less busy one? Or find a third option? Or a fourth? 

 

Commuters coming into town from the Westshore have limited options but the options exist so why shouldn't they exercise them? 

 

Going to quote Spock again... "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few". 


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#203 Mike K.

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 06:10 PM

Whatever View Royal does to turn off motorists won’t stop the flow, but it will sure make it harder and harder for its own citizens to travel into and out of their community.

I know plenty of folks steaming mad over the Helmcken disaster ...who live in View Royal ...and are pulling their hair out over the decision to turn a busy intersection into a giant bottleneck.

Luckily the Island’s primary trauma centre isn’t located in View Royal. What a mess that would...

Wait a second now...
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#204 DustMagnet

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 08:17 PM

Pardon my ignorance here, but what is the Helmcken Disaster people periodically mention?  Did some part of that road used to be a four lane highway or something?



#205 Mike K.

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 08:52 PM

When Eagle Creek was built, the transportation department decided to remove a southbound through-lane towards the Helmcken overpass/TCH (and a de-facto turning lane towards the hospital). So now, whether you’re headed to the hospital, headed to View Royal south of the TCH or north/south on the TCH, you have no choice but to queue in a single lane of traffic travelling down Helmcken (which is the southern end of Wilkinson, a major Saanich east/west road). Thing get real hairy when pedestrians are crossing Watkiss Way and vehicles can’t turn off Helmcken. But luckily that’s not particular common.

All that’s accomplished is create a heap of idling traffic that keeps all motorists stuck, and is especially trying for View Royal residents.

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Posted 15 May 2019 - 09:37 PM

When Eagle Creek was built, the transportation department decided to remove a southbound through-lane towards the Helmcken overpass/TCH (and a de-facto turning lane towards the hospital). So now, whether you’re headed to the hospital, headed to View Royal south of the TCH or north/south on the TCH, you have no choice but to queue in a single lane of traffic travelling down Helmcken (which is the southern end of Wilkinson, a major Saanich east/west road). Thing get real hairy when pedestrians are crossing Watkiss Way and vehicles can’t turn off Helmcken. But luckily that’s not particular common.

All that’s accomplished is create a heap of idling traffic that keeps all motorists stuck, and is especially trying for View Royal residents.

 

Ah, I can see this using the Google Street View snapshots.  And what was the reasoning, if given?



#207 Mike K.

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 06:09 AM

It was a complete head scratcher. But I suspect it’s part of View Royal’s traffic calming vision.

And it won’t work, if there were six or seven alternate routes in that area. But you have exactly ...one. So the exactly one route just gets insanely congested and everybody loses.

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 06:14 AM

Ah, I can see this using the Google Street View snapshots. And what was the reasoning, if given?


It was to protect the hundreds if not thousands of vulnerable cyclists that turn right into the shopping centre and the hospital.

#209 Mike K.

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Posted 16 May 2019 - 06:16 AM

Ah, a great ruse.

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#210 Nparker

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Posted 23 May 2019 - 10:04 AM

Something to do while you're stuck in traffic: https://www.vicnews....-traffic-bingo/

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 09:23 AM

During morning rush hour at Esquimalt/Tyee the cars making a left turn from Tyee onto Esquimalt have an advance left turn, plus not much cross traffic coming from the Songhees side. As a result, about 10-15 cars from Tyee get onto Esquimalt each light sequence. Those cars typically fill most of the available space on Esquimalt in front of the BMW dealership.

 

When the eastbound Esquimalt light turns green there is often very little room in the BMW block. For most light sequences, only 3-5 cars will get through the light.

 

No wonder Esquimalt backs up.



#212 Mike K.

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Posted 27 May 2019 - 09:59 AM

Welcome to traffic planning, Victoria style.

That intersection has had that issue during peak periods for time immemorial. When you’ve only got one lane to play with that’s the result.

It’s absolutely bonkers that we built the bridge with three lanes. It was a terrible mistake, short sighted and ultimately very costly to the thousands of drivers that waste fuel waiting to cross the harbour.
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