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[VicHockeyFan]

They’re light years ahead of the competition, aren’t they?

 

Maybe on the power-plant.  But there is all the other parts of a car too that the big manufacturers are experts on.

[Bingo]

Why do we all expect Tesla to be #1? They have a 100+ year catching up to do. Maybe they will just become a parts supplier to the big auto companies.

 

I think their market will be in building batteries for everyone else. Their cars will be a sideline to all the other more important irons Musk has in the fire.

[LeoVictoria]

For a man whose entire life’s goal is to colonize Mars, to have sent a vehicle into space aimed at Mars but which is now careening towards an asteroid belt is a flop.

He was hoping for a massive publicity stunt and instead jumped the shark. Why send junk into space? Is that a feat now?

But the rocket itself is awesome. No doubt about it.

 

It's unclear they were even aiming for Mars.  It's very unlikely that they overshot because of burning too long, they probably burned until the fuel was gone to see how far out it would go.     In fact they said they would do this before the mission: https://twitter.com/...616514708758529

 

He was hoping for a massive publicity stunt and that's exactly what he got.   Coverage around the world in every news outlet.  How is that not great publicity?

 

As for space junk, there is zero negative consequence of this thing flying around, so the "junk" is a misplaced connotation.  

Edited by LeoVictoria, 08 February 2018 - 02:45 PM.

[LeoVictoria]

The likelyhood of Tesla being the #1 manufacturer of EVs in the long term is the same the likelyhood of Porsche or BMW being the #1 manufacturer of vehicles.  Zero.   That was never the target.   They do want to be #1 in the luxury space though and are making good progress on that front.

Edited by LeoVictoria, 08 February 2018 - 02:34 PM.

[LeoVictoria]

[Mattjvd]

It's unclear they were even aiming for Mars. It's very unlikely that they overshot because of burning too long, they probably burned until the fuel was gone to see how far out it would go. In fact they said they would do this before the mission: https://twitter.com/...616514708758529

He was hoping for a massive publicity stunt and that's exactly what he got. Coverage around the world in every news outlet. How is that not great publicity?

As for space junk, there is zero negative consequence of this thing flying around, so the "junk" is a misplaced connotation.

They were aiming for a large eliptical orbit of the the sun with an average radius roughly equal to that of Mars.

[Bingo]

They were aiming for a large eliptical orbit of the the sun with an average radius roughly equal to that of Mars.

 

I thought they were aiming for deep space in hopes that aliens would find the car.

[Rob Randall]

I can imagine some advanced alien species dissecting that mannequin: why is it hollow? Why no machinery? Is it constructed of some sort of nanotechnology bio-polymer that needs to be activated by some mysterious power source to become "alive"? Nope, it's just a mannequin.

[Mike K.]

Model 3 has been delayed to late 2018, early 2019.

Musk is now saying that if he can send a car into an asteroid belt, what can he not do?

[Star Dust]

Tesla was a pure Genius. If you ever want to know about him, I suggest looking him up.  Poor guy was one of the most brilliant people to ever live, yet because of what he knew, and what he could do for the energy industry he was thrown out in the cold. He died a rather poor man with no credit to his genius whatsoever.

 

He actually invented a way to transport Electricity through the AIR, and it would be FREE with no cost to people to use it.  FREE ENERGY, unfortunately was not what the GLOBAL ELITE had in mind.... so they destroyed him.

Edited by Star Dust, 10 February 2018 - 01:44 AM.

[VicHockeyFan]

Oh boy. There are lots of sources of free energy. The sun. Nuclear power. Oil. Rivers. Tides. Natural gas. Geothermal. Biomass. They are all free. The problem is they all require some effort to convert them to the practical energy you desire. That’s the hard part, that’s the expensive part. Tesla did not discover anything we do not now know.

[Rob Randall]

Bloomberg uses VIN information to sleuth out how many Teslas are actually being made:

 

https://www.bloomber...-tesla-tracker/

 

 

That plan only works if the company can figure out how to make exponentially more cars. And, as often happens with Musk’s aggressive goals, Tesla has repeatedly fallen short of its own manufacturing targets.

 

If Tesla can’t figure out how to make more cars soon, it could open a lane for rivals from Detroit and overseas to establish the high-volume market for a $35,000 electric car—one that Tesla has had in its sights from its very beginning.

[lanforod]

35k is still too much (particularly since their talking USD). If Detroit/Japan/Germany want to take on Tesla, they should come up with a 20k USD model that can be feature added up to 40k. A Honda Civic electric starting at 20k, that can be upgraded to GT-E or whatever for 40k which includes every bell and whistle.

[Mike K.]

Tesla got cryptojacked:
 
“We maintain a bug bounty program to encourage this type of research, and we addressed this vulnerability within hours of learning about it,” Tesla said. “The impact seems to be limited to internally-used engineering test cars only, and our initial investigation found no indication that customer privacy or vehicle safety or security was compromised in any way.”
 
That's the statement from Tesla who had one of their cloud-based systems hacked by a group who used their server resources to mine bitcoins, lol. 
 
Luckily this time the hacked environment was not exposed to customer's vehicles and nobody was put in danger.

[Jackerbie]

Tesla has suspended Model 3 production for up to five days, in order to make tweaks to the automation and improve the process. Apparently there has been acknowledgement that there are too many robots being used, so I guess they've reached peak automation? https://www.bloomber...l-3-sedan-again

[Mike K.]

Right, they've been criticized that far too much automation is used in the production of those vehicles and that's what's caused so much of the grief.

 

But a single robot does the work of approximately five individuals, so how they'll manage with a reduction in automation is a question on investors' minds.

 

The stock price remains stuck at under $300.

[lanforod]

These production line pauses aren't exactly uncommon...

[Jackerbie]

These production line pauses aren't exactly uncommon...

 

No, this isn't the first time this year they've had to pause. I think what is different this time around is the scope of changes to the assembly process. The employees are also making a stir since the shutdown is being treated as unpaid time off. At the end of the day it's Tesla, so the media will run with any story they can get with this company.

[Rob Randall]

https://twitter.com/...198118666162176

[Bingo]

CNBC's Martin Soong reports on the latest from the Securities and Exchange Commission, which has sued Tesla's chief executive Elon Musk for making "false and misleading tweets," and for failing to properly notify regulators of material company events.

https://www.cnbc.com...-for-fraud.html